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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      That's crap. Of course they do this RIGHT as I plan to be outside of the US extensively.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Reid Cooper
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        @Reid-Cooper said:

        http://torrentfreak.com/netflix-cracks-down-on-vpn-and-proxy-pirates-150103/

        Not good news for those outside of the US. Harder to buy content. Netflix appears to want you to just pirate the content instead.

        This is a silly thing to crack down on. It seems like a lot of effort for something that could be easily circumvented. Although... that sounds exactly like the entire music and movie industry... so par for the course it seems.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          My guess is that Netflix' licensing demands it. It makes zero sense that Netflix themselves care about it. Only costs them money.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            My guess is that Netflix' licensing demands it. It makes zero sense that Netflix themselves care about it. Only costs them money.

            So they are going to put the policies in place and say, "Look we did something about it" no matter how ineffective it is? Actually... good for them that is a fantastic way to deal with archaic licensing agreements.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              That's how contracts are.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Different parts of the world pay different fee levels.

                Also, Once Netflix is world wide, you think the ISPs in the US are complaining, what about those in 3rd world countries? even those other first world ones.. lol

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                • NicN
                  Nic
                  last edited by gjacobse

                  F[moderated] it - just go back to pirating.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @Nic
                    last edited by gjacobse

                    @Nic said:

                    F[moderated] it - just go back to pirating.

                    I pirate what isn't on Netflix and use Netflix for what I can.

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                    • NicN
                      Nic
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                      There are some issues with proxies and other sites too, such as Craigslist. For instance we use Amazon for our Webroot proxy service, and Craigslist will refuse all IP addresses coming from Amazon servers, since they don't trust them. I'm not sure where all this is going but it doesn't look good.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Nic
                        last edited by

                        @Nic said:

                        There are some issues with proxies and other sites too, such as Craigslist. For instance we use Amazon for our Webroot proxy service, and Craigslist will refuse all IP addresses coming from Amazon servers, since they don't trust them. I'm not sure where all this is going but it doesn't look good.

                        Basically "security" will cripple itself. Blocking Amazon is just ridiculous.

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                        • NicN
                          Nic
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                          Agreed. We have to reach out to sites and sweet talk them into accepting our Amazon proxy IP addresses. I fear we're headed back to the days of AOL and Compuserv, where the Internet is balkanized.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Netflix says that this is a false report.

                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30726631

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Netflix says that this is a false report.

                              No, Netflix states that they did not change their policy or process. That does not mean that the report (that some users can no longer use a VPN) is false. Netflix policy is now, and always has been, to block known VPN services.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Netflix says that this is a false report.

                                No, Netflix states that they did not change their policy or process. That does not mean that the report (that some users can no longer use a VPN) is false. Netflix policy is now, and always has been, to block known VPN services.

                                That's not in agreement with what Netflix stated. Maybe they are lying, but they say that not only has policy not changed but neither has the blocking:

                                "Speaking at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, he said: "People who are using a VPN to access our service from outside of the area will find that it still works exactly as it has always done."

                                He was speaking in response to widespread claims that the popular media streaming firm had begun a crackdown on customers who used VPNs at the behest of studios unhappy at their licensing arrangements being ignored."

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller and there is another line in that article that states the blocking is always changing. Thus they very well might be blocking some new IP blocks, but that is not a new process or crackdown. It is part of their process.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    • C
                                      Carnival Boy
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                                      I get licencing restrictions in different countries, but I've never understood why it is enforced by IP blocking, Why can't they just say if you pay with a US credit-card you get US content, if you pay with a British credit-card you get British content? Wouldn't that be simpler? I appreciate that may mean changing some copyright laws.

                                      I also don't understand why I pay more for Netflix than you Americans and yet I get access to considerably less content, but that's another issue.

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                                      • nadnerBN
                                        nadnerB
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                                        This is an issue that should have been resolved in the Napster era but the movie industry was too arrogant and was too busy bathing in their money to care.

                                        The world is a global economy. Gone are the days where you had to ship container loads of VHS tapes to different countries. Movies go global in minutes not months.

                                        The world has changed but sadly the movie industry has not. The music industry has made the change, so what's the hold up? Oh, that's right, I forgot that it's what the consumers want and are pleading for. It's not like doing what the paying consumers want is going to make you money or anything... or will it?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @nadnerB
                                          last edited by

                                          @nadnerB said:

                                          The music industry has made the change, so what's the hold up?

                                          Not so much. There is a ton of music that I cannot buy in the US, so I just torrent it.

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                                          • C
                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            There are some records on Spotify that are available in the US but not he UK, annoyingly.

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