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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB
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      I just hate the ecosystems that they force you into. Having to pay to play with your friends online? Pffft no thanks.

      The one good feature of the play station is the hard drive and being able to use a standard SATA drive.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        I was on the verge of running out and buying one when this happened. Nope. Sony made sure that I didn't do that casually. I guess I can thank them for saving me some money 🙂

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        • nadnerBN
          nadnerB
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          It's times like these when I feel the need to remind gamers of the hierarchy

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I reposted that over to GamrHaus.

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            • nadnerBN
              nadnerB
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              Lol, righto.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @nadnerB
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                @nadnerB said:

                I just hate the ecosystems that they force you into. Having to pay to play with your friends online? Pffft no thanks.

                How is this any different than the iTunes store? I have to say after hearing Steve Gibson's break down of the security within the iPhone, I'm very impressed, and it truly seems like they care about their customer's security and privacy (see their sorta recent upgrade so even they can't unencrypted your phone). That said I hate the fact that I'm forced to buy everything from them, and only them, what they deem acceptable for me to have.

                I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.

                UG!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  And that's why I don't use iTunes 🙂

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    And that's why I don't use iTunes 🙂

                    yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?

                      Yes but iTunes has not been needed for it in many generations.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?

                        Yes but iTunes has not been needed for it in many generations.

                        OK sub App Store for iTunes - same difference.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.

                            True, it's not the same as the crippling situation that Sony has put us in with PSN, but it's not just a delivery system either. It's the ONLY delivery system with Apple's guards at the gate only allowing content they allow - so granted, different problem, but still a problem.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
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                              It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.

                                Without jailbreaking?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.

                                  Without jailbreaking?

                                  Correct. You have to use the system that companies use to push their own code. If you own an iPhone, you can deploy your own stuff to it.

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                                  • nadnerBN
                                    nadnerB @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    How is this any different than the iTunes store?

                                    I don't see it as any different for iDevices.
                                    This is another reason that I still buy my music on CDs.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                      last edited by

                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      How is this any different than the iTunes store?

                                      I don't see it as any different for iDevices.
                                      This is another reason that I still buy my music on CDs.

                                      I buy from Amazon, it is DRM free. And it should be noted that you can do this directly on the iOS devices, no iTunes lock in.

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                                      • nadnerBN
                                        nadnerB @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.

                                        At least with Android, you can install the Amazon app store. Granted it's not an out of the box option for most devices but it's still one of Androids optional replacement parts.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @nadnerB
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                                          @nadnerB said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.

                                          At least with Android, you can install the Amazon app store. Granted it's not an out of the box option for most devices but it's still one of Androids optional replacement parts.

                                          Exactly, this is why I like Android better than IOS - I'm not locked into a single store.

                                          It's looking like Amazon offers users the best choice at this point. As Scott mentioned you can buy all your music DRM free and put it on anything you like. I know the Play store music isn't that way, just like the AppStore music isn't (unless you burn cds and rip)

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            It's looking like Amazon offers users the best choice at this point. As Scott mentioned you can buy all your music DRM free and put it on anything you like. I know the Play store music isn't that way, just like the AppStore music isn't (unless you burn cds and rip)

                                            iTunes went DRM free back in like 2009.

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