PlayStation and XBOX Offline for Christmas
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?
Yes but iTunes has not been needed for it in many generations.
OK sub App Store for iTunes - same difference.
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App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.
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@scottalanmiller said:
App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.
True, it's not the same as the crippling situation that Sony has put us in with PSN, but it's not just a delivery system either. It's the ONLY delivery system with Apple's guards at the gate only allowing content they allow - so granted, different problem, but still a problem.
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It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
Without jailbreaking?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
Without jailbreaking?
Correct. You have to use the system that companies use to push their own code. If you own an iPhone, you can deploy your own stuff to it.
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@Dashrender said:
How is this any different than the iTunes store?
I don't see it as any different for iDevices.
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@nadnerB said:
@Dashrender said:
How is this any different than the iTunes store?
I don't see it as any different for iDevices.
This is another reason that I still buy my music on CDs.I buy from Amazon, it is DRM free. And it should be noted that you can do this directly on the iOS devices, no iTunes lock in.
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@Dashrender said:
I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.
At least with Android, you can install the Amazon app store. Granted it's not an out of the box option for most devices but it's still one of Androids optional replacement parts.
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@nadnerB said:
@Dashrender said:
I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.
At least with Android, you can install the Amazon app store. Granted it's not an out of the box option for most devices but it's still one of Androids optional replacement parts.
Exactly, this is why I like Android better than IOS - I'm not locked into a single store.
It's looking like Amazon offers users the best choice at this point. As Scott mentioned you can buy all your music DRM free and put it on anything you like. I know the Play store music isn't that way, just like the AppStore music isn't (unless you burn cds and rip)
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@Dashrender said:
It's looking like Amazon offers users the best choice at this point. As Scott mentioned you can buy all your music DRM free and put it on anything you like. I know the Play store music isn't that way, just like the AppStore music isn't (unless you burn cds and rip)
iTunes went DRM free back in like 2009.
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@JaredBusch said:
iTunes went DRM free back in like 2009.
Really? I had no idea. They so completely burned their audience that it never even occurred to me that it might have changed. Everyone that I know that uses iTunes keeps treating it like it has DRM and needs Apple to back it up for them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
iTunes went DRM free back in like 2009.
Really? I had no idea. They so completely burned their audience that it never even occurred to me that it might have changed. Everyone that I know that uses iTunes keeps treating it like it has DRM and needs Apple to back it up for them.
Ditto!
Now that said, can you take a file you've purchased from the appstore, downloaded directly to your iphone and mail/dropbox/OnDrive it to another device and play it without any issues? Yes I know this would be a requirement of DRM free, but wow.. I am just finding that hard to believe.
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You pay more for the privilege of being DRM free
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@nadnerB said:
You pay more for the privilege of being DRM free
Ah, is there like an option to pay for and get it that way?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Ah, is there like an option to pay for and get it that way?
No.
FAQ for iTunes Plus (what they technically called it when they switched to DRM free in 2009)
http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201616 -
Here's the kicker.
Why is iTunes Plus format available for certain music, but not all?
The reason that certain music and music videos are not offered in our DRM-free, highest quality audio format is because they have not been provided in iTunes Plus format from the music label.
This makes me wonder what percent of music is still not offered DRM free? I don't listen/buy much music - when I have time to hear tunes I generally prefer to listen to podcasts. When I'm working on a project and just want background noise, the radio or free streaming options suit me just fine.
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@Dashrender said:
This makes me wonder what percent of music is still not offered DRM free?
Probably not a lot anymore, but there could be a few random licensing agreements still hanging out there. Apple is pretty aggressive about things like that though.
