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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      It is hard to imagine that you are not in the "free" backup envelope. How many VMs and how many physical hosts total will you have when the migration is all done?

      It is Backup Assist. It is basically a glorified NT Backup. It has served us well.

      Since I won't be repurposing the old server for a few weeks, once demoted, we will have the following:

      New Server (Hypervisor)
      VM1: Domain Controller
      VM2: Services (File, Print, Web, Anti-Virus) (need file backup here)

      SQL Server (Physical) - We just backup SQL with Backup Assist.

      Misc - Some of our shop machines have local SQL that we also backup with BackupAssist.

      As mentioned, in order to backup AD, BackupAssist has to be ran from the Domain Controller where it also can backup remote files (including the files on VM2)

      So, I am open to other free or low cost solutions where I can backup AD, SQL (with options for Transaction Logs), File Server and any other remote PC from a location other than the Domain Controller. 🙂

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Unitrends will backup up to 8 VMs for free.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by garak0410

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Unitrends will backup up to 8 VMs for free.

          So when we say VM's, is this like images/snapshots or can it also do file level, SQL and SQL transactional logs?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Yes. It does file level. I'll let @katieunitrends or @art_of_shred tell you all the technical details.

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Yes. It does file level. I'll let @katieunitrends or @art_of_shred tell you all the technical details.

              Great...downloading to my new "services" VM now. 🙂

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @garak0410
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                @garak0410 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Yes. It does file level. I'll let @katieunitrends or @art_of_shred tell you all the technical details.

                Great...downloading to my new "services" VM now. 🙂

                Assuming it gets installed there and not the hypervisor, correct?

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                • KatieUnitrendsK
                  KatieUnitrends Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Yes. It does file level. I'll let @katieunitrends or @art_of_shred tell you all the technical details.

                  The free version will protect up to 8 VMS running on VMWare or HyperV in an agent less architecture. This version allows for both file level & full VM restore, so you should be covered. I did want to make the community aware that he free version has been removed from our website, but is still available for the next few weeks. To redeem this version, just make sure to specify that you're registering for the free version during registration. Please let me know what questions you may have.

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned
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                    Free UEB is going away? Did I get that right?

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                      art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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                      • art_of_shredA
                        art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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                        @garak0410 Oh, and it doesn't go on a vm; it IS a vm.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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                          @garak0410 The Unitrends UEB is either deployed on Hyper-V or VMware.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                            @art_of_shred said:

                            Free UEB is going away? Did I get that right?

                            That's how I'm reading what she said. That's surprising. Well not really, it is a pretty major giveaway. Free products like that really don't drive sales very well. People who come to you because your product is free rarely want to spend money later. It can happen, but it is rare.

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @garak0410
                              last edited by garak0410

                              @garak0410 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I would generally wait until after hours but should be pretty safe in most environments. AD is rarely something that an SMB depends on minute to minute.

                              Tempting to do now...but I can VPN around 5:30 and run it too.

                              I tried running ADPREP and it didn't work since my current Domain Controller is 32 bit. So if I understand this article correct:

                              http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2743367

                              It has to be run remotely? It was kind of vague.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                That article is only for windows 2003 64bit. If you have 32bit then that KB does not apply.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  That article is only for windows 2003 64bit. If you have 32bit then that KB does not apply.

                                  Well, regardless, I am stuck at this point and I'll begin my research there. 😞

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    What error are you getting? Not sure what problem you are running into.

                                    Really this should be its own question as it isn't really a continuation of the original thought and needs discrete troubleshooting. Tacking it on into the stream of this discussion will make it hard to troubleshoot and anyone joining now won't see this question in the middle.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Have you checked this video:

                                      Youtube Video

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        And I assume that you've been through this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh472161.aspx#BKMK_NewAdprep

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          And some discussion here too: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/0eb5670e-1786-4b1c-b970-30fe0f28583e/adding-server-2012-as-dc-to-server-2003-domain-getting-adprep-error?forum=winserver8setup

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            And some discussion here too: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/0eb5670e-1786-4b1c-b970-30fe0f28583e/adding-server-2012-as-dc-to-server-2003-domain-getting-adprep-error?forum=winserver8setup

                                            Excellent video and links. Thanks...

                                            The backup issue is having me lean toward just going physical and not virtualizing. I asked again if we could spare a few thousand on a backup solution and they said not right now. And the Unitrends option looks off the table for now.

                                            I understand the benefits of virtualization but being that I want to get this done this week as my VBA (yuck) projects are piling up, I may just go physical with a one, do it all, beefy server.

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