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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
      last edited by

      I know a lot of you have other suggestions beyond login scripts but I am sticking with them for now...but running into a drive mapping problem...

      Question - Our main File Server Drive has a folder called ALL and then under that, various folders like Accounting, Purchasing, etc..

      On the current server, you can map directly to one of those folders rather than having to do \server\All\Accounting

      I am sure this is something I need to set at the root of the drive but cannot recall. Any suggestions?

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
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        Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

        During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

        http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said:

          Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

          During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

          http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

          Yes...it has been mentioned but my list has been too full to think of anything else...I'm a solo IT shop, so I am still handling workstation issues, office equipment issues, cell phones, software coding issues...juggling!

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @garak0410
            last edited by

            @garak0410 said:

            @IRJ said:

            Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

            During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

            http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

            Yes...it has been mentioned but my list has been too full to think of anything else...I'm a solo IT shop, so I am still handling workstation issues, office equipment issues, cell phones, software coding issues...juggling!

            That said...I am checking it out now...I may work late tonight...tomorrow is my official move to new servers evening...

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              @scottalanmiller

              Do you feel one of these ways is better than the other, any if so, why?

              e:\all\accounting = \servername\accounting
              e:\all\it = \servername\it
              e:\all\hr = \servername\hr
              etc

              Here is the other option I mentioned above
              e:\all = \servername\all
              and you connect your drive letters like this
              net use p: \servername\all\accounting
              net use i: \servername\all\it
              net use h: \servername\all\hr

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller

                Do you feel one of these ways is better than the other, any if so, why?

                e:\all\accounting = \servername\accounting
                e:\all\it = \servername\it
                e:\all\hr = \servername\hr
                etc

                Here is the other option I mentioned above
                e:\all = \servername\all
                and you connect your drive letters like this
                net use p: \servername\all\accounting
                net use i: \servername\all\it
                net use h: \servername\all\hr

                There are good times for each. The first set is based off of many shares and the later off of a single one. This really comes down to how you want to manage security. If you need granular share-level security you need many shares. But if you don't, and generally you don't, I would do the "one share" method to make things simpler.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  @scottalanmiller
                  What do you think about using this post's method for copying over the shares?
                  http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/06/27/how-to-move-windows-shares-from-one-computer-to-another/

                  In Garak's case he'll have to edit the exported REG file from the old server because he's moving from 😧 to E:

                  I've done this before and it works, but I don't recall is if it brings the Share ACL along?

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410
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                    Quick Update - Robocopy is STILL copying the files...it is under 1TB for sure but upwards around 800-900 GB. Our biggest software suite generates a TON of files so it is the sheer amount of files I believe. It is on the last huge directory so should pick up after it is complete.

                    The file server VM has been allowed 8GB (and dynamic) memory it is hovering around 90% right now:

                    memoryUsage01.jpg

                    The biggest culprit is Symantec Endpoint, using about 214MB and it's SQL Anywhere Embedded Database about 134MB. That is actually normal and what it shows on the current server. Then there is other processes with negligible memory use. So, could it be from the file copying? I don't see how what I show to add up to 7GB of memory use.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Turn off AV during the transfer 😉

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                      • lanceL
                        lance @garak0410
                        last edited by

                        @garak0410 said:

                        Quick Update - Robocopy is STILL copying the files...it is under 1TB for sure but upwards around 800-900 GB. Our biggest software suite generates a TON of files so it is the sheer amount of files I believe. It is on the last huge directory so should pick up after it is complete.

                        The file server VM has been allowed 8GB (and dynamic) memory it is hovering around 90% right now:

                        memoryUsage01.jpg

                        The biggest culprit is Symantec Endpoint, using about 214MB and it's SQL Anywhere Embedded Database about 134MB. That is actually normal and what it shows on the current server. Then there is other processes with negligible memory use. So, could it be from the file copying? I don't see how what I show to add up to 7GB of memory use.

                        We use SEPM and I hate it. I can't wait till we finally pull the plug on it.

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller

                          Turned off Symantec and it has gotten worse and can't reboot due to Robocopy...I do not really see any other reason for the high memory usage...

                          memoryUsage02.jpg

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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410
                            last edited by garak0410

                            Another Screen Shot...

                            memoryUsage03.jpg

                            In contrast, the Host shows very little wear on it...

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              File transfers should use all available memory. Nothing odd there.

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                File transfers should use all available memory. Nothing odd there.

                                So noted. Just wish it showed up in task manager...I'll be patient...we have than less than 1/3 left to copy...and then a run with the /XO command tonight to get what is new or changed.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @garak0410
                                  last edited by garak0410

                                  @garak0410

                                  After first Robocopy completed, I rebooted my VM for my file server. Immediately, it is at 95% memory usage (7.5 GB out of 8GB). I turned it off, turned DYNAMIC memory OFF and bam...looks much better.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Awesome

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410
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                                      Big round of applause for all of the tips I got here. It looks like my file server migration went quite well. A few minor things today:

                                      As it would happen, we had a power surge and the battery backups for the old server (domain controller) both went nuts and turned the server off. I assume since the other roles haven't been officially moved to the new Domain Controller is why no one had any DNS services.

                                      One of our VBA programs has messy, messy code and it's all over the place. Any job made prior to the file server would not open unless I restored sharing to the folder on the old server that contains the code for this project. So, the workaround works but adding this fix to my list.

                                      Beyond some users needing to log out and in a few times to get their login scripts right and some typos I made in the script,, I couldn't be happier.

                                      I guess I will be planning on the eventual demotion of the old DC...

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Once you think you have everything moved off the old server, turn it off for a few days (before you move the FSMO roles) You don't need the server with the roles running all the time (OK maybe PDC emulator might be nice to keep live). If there are no complaints you know you are good to go moving the FSMO roles and turning the old server off.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          DNS is not affected by roles. DNS is not tied to AD. Two separate services. Are you sure that people's desktop are pointing to the new machine for DNS? Use nslookup to test.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            DNS is not affected by roles. DNS is not tied to AD. Two separate services. Are you sure that people's desktop are pointing to the new machine for DNS? Use nslookup to test.

                                            Agreed...now that I've had time to think, this may go back to my static assignments and not using DHCP...adding to list...

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