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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      Looking to know if this attribute exists and if so on what version(s) of Microsoft Server AD.

      Been trying to find this for a while now and I'm getting the runaround from a vendor who says this exists yet can't tell me what the attribute is named and I can't find any mention of it in any documentation.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        It might not be native - it very easily could be something they extend when you buy their solution.

        Cisco does this with call manager - you run code against AD which adds several new attributes.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

          It might not be native - it very easily could be something they extend when you buy their solution.

          Cisco does this with call manager - you run code against AD which adds several new attributes.

          That I would understand, if the vendor said as much. They can't even tell me that its an extension, its been a week with multiple follow-up calls and I get the same response "we have to investigate".

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

            Looking to know if this attribute exists and if so on what version(s) of Microsoft Server AD.

            Been trying to find this for a while now and I'm getting the runaround from a vendor who says this exists yet can't tell me what the attribute is named and I can't find any mention of it in any documentation.

            Who is the vendor?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @dbeato
              last edited by

              @dbeato Check your PM's I'd rather not advertise this vendor.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                @dbeato Check your PM's I'd rather not advertise this vendor.

                It's kinda obvious that they shouldn't be used because anyone that knows anything has already left the company.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 Thanks, This is what I know about SmartCard and AD

                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/windows-security/enabling-smart-card-logon-third-party-certification-authorities

                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/ad/security-properties

                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/adschema/a-cacertificate

                  https://www.pkisolutions.com/understanding-active-directory-certificate-services-containers-in-active-directory/

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by DustinB3403

                    The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                    https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                    Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                      The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                      https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                      Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                      Hahha, makes sense

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @dbeato
                        last edited by

                        @dbeato said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                        The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                        https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                        Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                        Hahha, makes sense

                        It's really insanely poor customer service that

                        1) You as the vendor don't have this documented for ready access 
                        2) It takes 3 weeks of calling the vendor to get this information from the vendor
                        3) That the vendor doesn't even have their own cleaned up copy of this requirement listed in their documentation...
                        
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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                          The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                          https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                          Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                          Hmmm.. think that was mentioned days ago 😉

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                            @dbeato said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                            The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                            https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                            Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                            Hahha, makes sense

                            It's really insanely poor customer service that

                            1) You as the vendor don't have this documented for ready access 
                            2) It takes 3 weeks of calling the vendor to get this information from the vendor
                            3) That the vendor doesn't even have their own cleaned up copy of this requirement listed in their documentation...
                            

                            Sounds like a lot of Great reasons to walk away from that vendor! imagine what will happen when you need support?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                              The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                              https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                              https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                              Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                              Hmmm.. think that was mentioned days ago 😉

                              If you're referring to

                              @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                              It might not be native - it very easily could be something they extend when you buy their solution.
                              Cisco does this with call manager - you run code against AD which adds several new attributes.

                              I would say, sure you mentioned new attributes but the support vendor couldn't even tell me as much. They literally had no clue how to integrate this information.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                @dbeato said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                                https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                                Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                                Hahha, makes sense

                                It's really insanely poor customer service that

                                1) You as the vendor don't have this documented for ready access 
                                2) It takes 3 weeks of calling the vendor to get this information from the vendor
                                3) That the vendor doesn't even have their own cleaned up copy of this requirement listed in their documentation...
                                

                                Sounds like a lot of Great reasons to walk away from that vendor! imagine what will happen when you need support?

                                Yes, absolutely the inverse to this is that the end customer has tested numerous different devices and has found that support from all of these vendors is pretty bad.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                  @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                  The vendor finally got back to me with the below 2 links. . .

                                  https://www.windowstechno.com/how-to-create-custom-attributes-in-active-directory/

                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/app-provisioning/user-provisioning-sync-attributes-for-mapping

                                  Why couldn't the vendor just say that custom user attributes would be required?

                                  Hmmm.. think that was mentioned days ago 😉

                                  If you're referring to

                                  @Dashrender said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                  It might not be native - it very easily could be something they extend when you buy their solution.
                                  Cisco does this with call manager - you run code against AD which adds several new attributes.

                                  I would say, sure you mentioned new attributes but the support vendor couldn't even tell me as much. They literally had no clue how to integrate this information.

                                  LOL - oh I know... they are clearly failing... I hope you as the IT person are telling your bosses this is NOT the company/vendor for you. Then have them watch Scott's video on why you don't need to sell them that idea.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    @Dashrender I'm a 3rd party to the end customer here. Acting as the middle man as the customer's IT department wanted to engage outside support to try and vet different products.

                                    I candidly told the customer that while this product will work, it won't work with all of the features they want without some substantial changes to their infrastructure and that the support (at least from this vendor) is pretty awful.

                                    The simple approach here is to not integrate RFID/HID's to the system and simply use the AD Integration with the built-in QR codes that each member is assigned.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                      @Dashrender I'm a 3rd party to the end customer here. Acting as the middle man as the customer's IT department wanted to engage outside support to try and vet different products.

                                      I candidly told the customer that while this product will work, it won't work with all of the features they want without some substantial changes to their infrastructure and that the support (at least from this vendor) is pretty awful.

                                      The simple approach here is to not integrate RFID/HID's to the system and simply use the AD Integration with the built-in QR codes that each member is assigned.

                                      Just because something may be supported, doesn't imply that it is support.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @Obsolesce said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Active Directory - User Attribute RFID/HID Badge:

                                        @Dashrender I'm a 3rd party to the end customer here. Acting as the middle man as the customer's IT department wanted to engage outside support to try and vet different products.

                                        I candidly told the customer that while this product will work, it won't work with all of the features they want without some substantial changes to their infrastructure and that the support (at least from this vendor) is pretty awful.

                                        The simple approach here is to not integrate RFID/HID's to the system and simply use the AD Integration with the built-in QR codes that each member is assigned.

                                        Just because something may be supported, doesn't imply that it is support.

                                        Except in this case the vendor very clearly has stated they support you adding custom attributes within AD.

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