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      Carnival Boy
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      I don't like wall-mounting TVs at all. Don't you find them too high? Aren't you having to crane your neck upwards? When I'm lying on the sofa I like the telly to be at eye level, so just stand it on a TV cabinet.

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        wirestyle22 @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

        I don't like wall-mounting TVs at all. Don't you find them too high? Aren't you having to crane your neck upwards? When I'm lying on the sofa I like the telly to be at eye level, so just stand it on a TV cabinet.

        It's not uncomfortable for me or Laura, but I can see why someone would feel that way. I think when you walk into a room it looks weird when there is a line of things on the bottom half of the wall and nothing on the top half. In the pics above I measure it out to be perfectly center in regards to the two windows. I'm very particular about aesthetics.

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          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

          I don't like wall-mounting TVs at all. Don't you find them too high? Aren't you having to crane your neck upwards? When I'm lying on the sofa I like the telly to be at eye level, so just stand it on a TV cabinet.

          I've never found that. But I see your point. But if that's the issue, the issue is where on the wall that they are mounted rather than the wall itself being too high.

          But lying down while watching TV is likely the difference. I know no one that does that. Obviously people do, but I don't think that it's the norm. Most people sit, and most people I know personally have an ottoman or easy chair which puts them in a leaned back position causing their "straight ahead" vision to be looking down.

          Me personally, I watch TV the most standing up, so even the wall mount is slightly low for me, but I don't want to look up at all while standing so it's good.

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            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

            @Carnival-Boy said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

            I don't like wall-mounting TVs at all. Don't you find them too high? Aren't you having to crane your neck upwards? When I'm lying on the sofa I like the telly to be at eye level, so just stand it on a TV cabinet.

            It's not uncomfortable for me or Laura, but I can see why someone would feel that way. I think when you walk into a room it looks weird when there is a line of things on the bottom half of the wall and nothing on the top half. In the pics above I measure it out to be perfectly center in regards to the two windows. I'm very particular about aesthetics.

            Yeah, put the TV where you'd put a painting.

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              JasGot
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              We've always had good luck placing the TV screen so the viewer's eyes are level with one of two lines on the screen; the line that separates the lower third from the middle third, or the line that separates the middle third from the upper third.

              Customers stopped complaining about neck strain when we started doing it this way. Can't remember where I read it, some article online, years ago.

              I love TVs above fireplace mantels; I always ask how their neck and shoulders feel after a long viewing session!

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                scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                @JasGot said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                I love TVs above fireplace mantels; I always ask how their neck and shoulders feel after a long viewing session!

                Mine is mantel mounted.

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                  krzykat @JasGot
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                  @JasGot I like mine higher, but then use a Pan Tilt swivel on my 70" ... this way when in the couch, it is pointing "Down" towards you. Also nice with the pan / swivel ... you can be in the kitchen, and just swing it that direction, or whichever way works best.

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                    wirestyle22 @krzykat
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                    @krzykat said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                    @JasGot I like mine higher, but then use a Pan Tilt swivel on my 70" ... this way when in the couch, it is pointing "Down" towards you. Also nice with the pan / swivel ... you can be in the kitchen, and just swing it that direction, or whichever way works best.

                    The TV I replaced with this new one I am putting in our bedroom with a pan tilt. I also like that

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                      JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                      Mine is mantel mounted.

                      But you stand to watch! 🙂

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                        scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                        @JasGot said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                        Mine is mantel mounted.

                        But you stand to watch! 🙂

                        Mostly, yes. I try not to be so sedentary and just sitting on the couch.

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                          JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller I should follow your lead.

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                            Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                            I don't like wall-mounting TVs at all. Don't you find them too high? Aren't you having to crane your neck upwards? When I'm lying on the sofa I like the telly to be at eye level, so just stand it on a TV cabinet.

                            Who said you have to mount it near the ceiling? 😉

                            I very much took this into account when mounting mine on the wall, it's rather low on the wall - for example, I detest TVs above the fireplace, I'll never do that personally.

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                              DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                              Idk if you guys remember me complaining about Laura not wanting to move the power outlet into the center of the wall (when we were building our house), but after weeks of discussion I just gave up. I knew eventually that she would realize how wrong she was.

                              What we could've had:
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                              What we have:
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                              I put in a call to our electrician to get an estimate, but it's easily going to cost us 3-4x the amount we would've spent during the build. At least Laura will learn to listen to me next time (she won't)

                              Do it yourself and just cut the hole, drop the cable, put in a box and wire it up off of the existing outlets. .

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                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                @JasGot said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                Mine is mantel mounted.

                                But you stand to watch! 🙂

                                Mostly, yes. I try not to be so sedentary and just sitting on the couch.

                                I don't understand.. so you gain a bit by standing instead of sitting - but what? just standing in the middle of the room, or off to one side?

                                My wife hates it when I'm standing watching TV, if she can see me standing she feels like I'm lording over her, even if I'm 15 feet away...

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                                  DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                  @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                  Nah that wouldn't be a real issue, just use a fish to feed the cable down, clean and simple.

                                  @Pete-S said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                  @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                  I wouldn't do it. If you want something else on that wall down the line, the outlets will be in the way.

                                  Have some nice cable management installed instead. You can have it painted as well.

                                  alt text

                                  That's ugly as all sin, and removing the cable after the fact and doing a drywall patch is stupidly simple.

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                                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                    @JasGot said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                    Mine is mantel mounted.

                                    But you stand to watch! 🙂

                                    Mostly, yes. I try not to be so sedentary and just sitting on the couch.

                                    I don't understand.. so you gain a bit by standing instead of sitting - but what? just standing in the middle of the room, or off to one side?

                                    My wife hates it when I'm standing watching TV, if she can see me standing she feels like I'm lording over her, even if I'm 15 feet away...

                                    Lord harder than, your subjects aren't supposed to be allowed to complain!

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                      @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                      Nah that wouldn't be a real issue, just use a fish to feed the cable down, clean and simple.

                                      @Pete-S said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                      @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                      I wouldn't do it. If you want something else on that wall down the line, the outlets will be in the way.

                                      Have some nice cable management installed instead. You can have it painted as well.

                                      alt text

                                      That's ugly as all sin, and removing the cable after the fact and doing a drywall patch is stupidly simpl

                                      With the cable molding option as well you'll need longer than the cables that are provided with the TV in almost every case.

                                      Not a huge issue, just a headache. A drywall saw is ~$4 plus the power cable for maybe $15 for 25 feet.

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                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                        @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                        Nah that wouldn't be a real issue, just use a fish to feed the cable down, clean and simple.

                                        @Pete-S said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                        @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                        I wouldn't do it. If you want something else on that wall down the line, the outlets will be in the way.

                                        Have some nice cable management installed instead. You can have it painted as well.

                                        alt text

                                        That's ugly as all sin, and removing the cable after the fact and doing a drywall patch is stupidly simpl

                                        With the cable molding option as well you'll need longer than the cables that are provided with the TV in almost every case.

                                        Not a huge issue, just a headache. A drywall saw is ~$4 plus the power cable for maybe $15 for 25 feet.

                                        I'm with Wire - it's definitely not a clean... I just installed a new power plug myself behind my TV... though not an outside wall, not that that should be that big of a deal...

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                                          coliver @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                          Nah that wouldn't be a real issue, just use a fish to feed the cable down, clean and simple.

                                          @Pete-S said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                          @Dashrender @Pete-S I've considered all of this. The reason I want an electrician to move the power outlet/ethernet is because it's an external wall and if I need to replace cables here and there (replacing the roku, tv, or other) I am worried I will rip up my insulation and a true conduit isn't to code in NJ. If I have him move the ethernet and power then there is no problem.

                                          I wouldn't do it. If you want something else on that wall down the line, the outlets will be in the way.

                                          Have some nice cable management installed instead. You can have it painted as well.

                                          alt text

                                          That's ugly as all sin, and removing the cable after the fact and doing a drywall patch is stupidly simpl

                                          With the cable molding option as well you'll need longer than the cables that are provided with the TV in almost every case.

                                          Not a huge issue, just a headache. A drywall saw is ~$4 plus the power cable for maybe $15 for 25 feet.

                                          I'm with Wire - it's definitely not a clean... I just installed a new power plug myself behind my TV... though not an outside wall, not that that should be that big of a deal...

                                          Depends on the insulation. But yeah for the most part the power should run on top of the fiberglass. Super simple. Get two rework boxes and you're good to go.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Amazon Prime Day - Oct 2020:

                                            I'm with Wire - it's definitely not a clean... I just installed a new power plug myself behind my TV... though not an outside wall, not that that should be that big of a deal...

                                            Yeah, unless these walls are filled to the edge with spray foam, feeding a few power cables down isn't going to be an issue. With fiberglass you'd just push through the insulation in those specific paths and it still wouldn't be that big of a loss.

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