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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates
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      For this small of a project you could just use onedrive or something. There aren't going to be many places to store up to an 8GB file for free and be able to download it whenever you want.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

        For this small of a project you could just use onedrive or something. There aren't going to be many places to store up to an 8GB file for free and be able to download it whenever you want.

        Yeah we are looking at and testing different providers for free accounts, it's all a WIP. There may be issues in xcp-ng as well (looking at a few logs which might cause issues)

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @VoIP_n00b
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          @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

          @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

          Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

          Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

          I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

          Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

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            1337
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            First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

            But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

            Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

            You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

              @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

              @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

              Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

              Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

              I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

              Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

              Do you mean GB? You keep saying TB.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @1337
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                @Pete-S said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

                But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

                Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

                You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

                Because needing an ISO would require people to either have XCP-NG Center installed or know how to build a VM via the command line.

                What this provides is a direct import of a working management interface from a root shell on the hypervisor.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @stacksofplates
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                  @stacksofplates said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                  @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                  @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                  @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                  Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                  Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

                  I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

                  Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

                  Do you mean GB? You keep saying TB.

                  Yep, doh!

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                    1337 @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                    @Pete-S said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                    First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

                    But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

                    Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

                    You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

                    Because needing an ISO would require people to either have XCP-NG Center installed or know how to build a VM via the command line.

                    What this provides is a direct import of a working management interface from a root shell on the hypervisor.

                    The user is downloading a script anyway to get started, bash -c "$(curl -s http://xoa.io/deploy)".

                    So it doesn't matter to the user if the script needs to create a vm with xe vm-install or if it will do it with xe vm-import.

                    I understand that you want to copy the method the Xen Orchestra guys have chosen. Personally I think it's suboptimal, even if their xoa.xva file is "only" roughly 800 MB in size.

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                      1337
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                      Regarding size, I did a regular debian 10 netinstall. And when running the xoce installation script after the installation, there was an additional 230 MB of packages and data downloaded.

                      That means a total of 350+230 = 580 MB have to be downloaded to install the OS and build XO from scratch.

                      Debian iso and packages downloads very quickly as they are sponsored by a CDN (Fastly) that delivers their files.

                      Anyway starting from nothing, it took about 7 minutes to download everything needed, install debian unattended and build xo with the script and have everything up and running.

                      Some of the steps I did manually like create the VM because we haven't fully automated everything yet. I only took actual running time for the server in account though.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
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                        If you still need a place, I've got a NextCloud server that can host it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                          If you still need a place, I've got a NextCloud server that can host it.

                          I may take you up on it in a bit, still working with @travisdh1 to see what might be going on with his system.

                          If you'd like to grab the existing file and drop it into your NC instance though the link is here - direct download

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                            @dafyre said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                            If you still need a place, I've got a NextCloud server that can host it.
                            

                            I may take you up on it in a bit, still working with @travisdh1 to see what might be going on with his system.

                            If you'd like to grab the existing file and drop it into your NC instance though the link is here - direct download

                            Yeah, I haven't been able to get the full 1.7GB file yet, and Wasabi (rightfully) prevents you from making storage publicly writeable.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 https://lifehacker.com/send-and-store-huge-files-for-free-with-telegram-1844522170

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch That won't work as people would have to login to a telegram account first to download the file.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                  @JaredBusch That won't work as people would have to login to a telegram account first to download the file.

                                  Yeah, but it would work to get the file to me instead of running into what I assume is a timeout issue for the download.

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                                    1337
                                    last edited by 1337

                                    After some more research I have a found a way to download as little as possible and with one command from the shell create a VM, install OS and build XO from scratch. Takes 10 minutes or so on our XCP-ng hosts. Requires some work with scripts though and I don't have time to do that so I'll drop it for now. We use most of the script needed for automatic builds of VMs.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                      @dafyre said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                      If you still need a place, I've got a NextCloud server that can host it.
                                      

                                      I may take you up on it in a bit, still working with @travisdh1 to see what might be going on with his system.

                                      If you'd like to grab the existing file and drop it into your NC instance though the link is here - direct download

                                      Done. File is located here
                                      https://cloud.wellston.biz/index.php/s/54tPkkkTcxQPnDs/download

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre Thanks, testing now to see if it works (as expected).

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