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    Reconsidering ProxMox

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      So, looking at Proxmox for a new deployment. I'll be dropping it on a spare laptop tomorrow to kick the tires.

      Looking at Proxmox over KVM simply for the GUI backup features.

      Anyone have any comments since they have fully released the backup stuff?

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        I have not tried the new Backup Server yet.
        I do use the built-in PVE backup.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          A comment about the default install. With 6.3 on a system with a single disk, it used ext4 by default.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            and logging in, it looks like LVM-thin is right there.
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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by

              Uploading an ISO was simplicity. Not sure how/why the entire dicsussion above happened about using a USB....
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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch Oh, I assume because of this option?
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                Fuck that. No one does that anywhere. The feature exists in every Hypervisor. But seriously, no one uses it.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  So what is the confusion about storage. It is not like you have an option when making a VM.
                  These were the defaults I saw.
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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    Not sure why LSI is "default, but VirtIO was selected? I left it alone.
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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      Going to have to RTFM soon, but WTF with a firewall enabled?
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                      I do not want my hypervisor doing jack shit to my instances.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        Wonder what they could do about Firefox thinking it is a pop up.

                        When Vultr pops the console, Firefox does not bitch like this.
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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
                          last edited by black3dynamite

                          I mainly used the built-in backup in PVE excluding a couple of VMs that is being backed up via Proxmox Backup Server.
                          For backups in PVE, I use the ZSTD for compression and Snapshots mode instead of supsend or stop.

                          For backups in PBS, I have garbage collection schedule set to run once week, prune is scheduled daily and it's set to keep the last 7 snapshots. I haven't tried its sync jobs (I assume its for syncing backups to another backup server. I have read the manual.).

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                            Going to have to RTFM soon, but WTF with a firewall enabled?
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                            I do not want my hypervisor doing jack shit to my instances.

                            Although is selected, it's not active.
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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite
                              last edited by

                              There's a firewall setting at the Datacenter (cluster) level, for each PVE hosts and for each VM/Container.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                There's a firewall setting at the Datacenter (cluster) level, for each PVE hosts and for each VM/Container.

                                I get reasons that it could be beneficial. But for the typical SMB, that should never really happen.

                                I did say I have not RTFM at all yet.

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                                • jclambertJ
                                  jclambert
                                  last edited by

                                  I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

                                  It seems others have found it effective however.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @jclambert
                                    last edited by

                                    @jclambert said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                    I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

                                    It seems others have found it effective however.

                                    5 years ago I would not ever touch ProxMox. It was a pile of flaming garbage.

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                                    • hobbit666H
                                      hobbit666
                                      last edited by hobbit666

                                      Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                                      Complained about not finding HD

                                      Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                                      May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @hobbit666
                                        last edited by

                                        @hobbit666 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                        Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                                        Complained about not finding HD

                                        Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                                        May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

                                        I assume this means you were trying on an old desktop? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't package drivers in for old/consumer equipment as their goal is clearly targeting the business market - for production use.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @hobbit666
                                          last edited by

                                          @hobbit666 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                                          Complained about not finding HD

                                          Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                                          May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

                                          It runs perfectly fine on my Dell Inspiron Laptop from 2017. Just have to use the USB to Ethernet.

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                                          • hobbit666H
                                            hobbit666 @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            I assume this means you were trying on an old desktop? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't package drivers in for old/consumer equipment as their goal is clearly targeting the business market - for production use.

                                            Yeah Dell Precision T7500 Tower

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