Reconsidering ProxMox
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Just tried it tonight and super impressed.
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Creating snapshots of UEFI VMs is a lot easier with Proxmox because its using LVM Thin.
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following this thread. Time to test this out on a spare box. I've always steered clear of this due to the feedback on here, but initial research looks like it has some pretty awesome features. The builtin backup features are nice too. And it has an API for even more automation. I like that. Time to spin up a box.
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@fuznutz04 enjoy
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So I started my day with the desire to test Proxmox. I've been giving it bits of attention over the last 4 hours as I have to keep the office running too.
My first road block was installing it from a USB stick. I had to track down Balena Etcher to burn a bootable install USB that would not complain about there being no CD-Rom in the drive. Not a huge problem, just puzzled me that Using UNetbootin or Rufus does not work. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_from_USB_Stick
Once I used Etcher, it installed really nicely.
Next road block that I have not overcome yet. I grabbed a bootable USB with Windows 2012R2 Std installer on it and cannot make it available to the PVE as a source. PVE only allows me to select:
CD/DVD ISO from local or CD/DVD from Physical.When I choose Local, I do not see the USB stick.
But, it is mounted (sde1), and I can shell out and use it, I can even see it in the node inside PVE, just can choose it.
Seems as though this should be just a bit easier......
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
So I started my day with the desire to test Proxmox. I've been giving it bits of attention over the last 4 hours as I have to keep the office running too.
My first road block was installing it from a USB stick. I had to track down Balena Etcher to burn a bootable install USB that would not complain about there being no CD-Rom in the drive. Not a huge problem, just puzzled me that Using UNetbootin or Rufus does not work. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_from_USB_Stick
Once I used Etcher, it installed really nicely.
Next road block that I have not overcome yet. I grabbed a bootable USB with Windows 2012R2 Std installer on it and cannot make it available to the PVE as a source. PVE only allows me to select:
CD/DVD ISO from local or CD/DVD from Physical.When I choose Local, I do not see the USB stick.
But, it is mounted (sde1), and I can shell out and use it, I can even see it in the node inside PVE, just can choose it.
Seems as though this should be just a bit easier......
You are intentionally doing it the hard way. No hypervisor is designed to use a full install media to turn up guests, even if they have an option for CDROM. Just put the ISO on there like you should.
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@JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
You are intentionally doing it the hard way. No hypervisor is designed to use a full install media to turn up guests, even if they have an option for CDROM. Just put the ISO on there like you should.
Yup, just copy the iso to an available repo on the hypervisor and select the iso as boot media.
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@fuznutz04 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
following this thread. Time to test this out on a spare box. I've always steered clear of this due to the feedback on here, but initial research looks like it has some pretty awesome features. The builtin backup features are nice too. And it has an API for even more automation. I like that. Time to spin up a box.
So far, I mean just one day, we are really liking it.
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@JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
So I started my day with the desire to test Proxmox. I've been giving it bits of attention over the last 4 hours as I have to keep the office running too.
My first road block was installing it from a USB stick. I had to track down Balena Etcher to burn a bootable install USB that would not complain about there being no CD-Rom in the drive. Not a huge problem, just puzzled me that Using UNetbootin or Rufus does not work. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_from_USB_Stick
Once I used Etcher, it installed really nicely.
Next road block that I have not overcome yet. I grabbed a bootable USB with Windows 2012R2 Std installer on it and cannot make it available to the PVE as a source. PVE only allows me to select:
CD/DVD ISO from local or CD/DVD from Physical.When I choose Local, I do not see the USB stick.
But, it is mounted (sde1), and I can shell out and use it, I can even see it in the node inside PVE, just can choose it.
Seems as though this should be just a bit easier......
You are intentionally doing it the hard way. No hypervisor is designed to use a full install media to turn up guests, even if they have an option for CDROM. Just put the ISO on there like you should.
Jared is correct. This is weird and complicated. Just use the web interfaces ISO upload tool, upload your ISO and voila, done.
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@scottalanmiller you can also use wget directly from the command line
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@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller you can also use wget directly from the command line
Yeah, but... why?
Well, if you are fully remote.
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller you can also use wget directly from the command line
Yeah, but... why?
Well, if you are fully remote.
Unless you're using a physical console on the server aren't you already "fully remote".
The concept doesn't make a lot of sense
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there is also an upload built into proxmox: Just upload the ISO...
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It’s supports multiple storage types like nfs or cifs. So if you keep your iso files on another server you can connect to that server.
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@JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
You are intentionally doing it the hard way. No hypervisor is designed to use a full install media to turn up guests, even if they have an option for CDROM. Just put the ISO on there like you should.
I understand this is easy to do. I also understand that if I was sourcing the media at the time of install, this would be super simple and I would not have even thought about local USB access.
But I also believe if I have bootable usb server media in my hand, I should be able to use it without much difficulty. After all, they made the CD/DVD an option..... and why? Most servers don't even come with CD/DVDs any more.....
Having found no documentation on how to use local usb for the installation source, I did upload an ISO. It took MUCH longer than sticking the USB stick in the USB port. (USB Stick - 2.1 seconds; ISO Media - 9 Minutes to download from MS, and 3 minutes to upload to PVE).
That's all. Nothing more, nothing less, I just think I should be able to easily use the resources that are already laying next to the server on the bench.
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And after all of that. It won't finish booting. It gets to here and then when I click OK, it reboots an d stop here again. Lovely.
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Having found no documentation on how to use local usb for the installation source, I did upload an ISO. It took MUCH longer than sticking the USB stick in the USB port.
But that isn't repeatable.
And it's just a quick dd command to turn that USB stick into an ISO on the storage.
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
And after all of that. It won't finish booting. It gets to here and then when I click OK, it reboots an d stop here again. Lovely.
Hardware virtualization definitely enabled?
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
And after all of that. It won't finish booting. It gets to here and then when I click OK, it reboots an d stop here again. Lovely.
Hardware virtualization definitely enabled?
Yes. Looks like a virtio-win issue. I need to find and install a newer version of virtio-win.
