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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @haxit
      last edited by

      @haxit said in MeshCentral Updates:

      @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

      today and last week. You can assign users to individual systems now instead of the entire group.

      what is the latest stable release as I have 5.33

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        haxit
        last edited by haxit

        Thanks for that @black3dynamite
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        i wanted to know how i can update mine to the latest build.
        im running it on my webhost

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          haxit
          last edited by

          also how would i resolve this

          536aeb9b-1afb-427e-85fb-68abdd4020b7-image.png

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @haxit
            last edited by

            @haxit said in MeshCentral Updates:

            also how would i resolve this

            536aeb9b-1afb-427e-85fb-68abdd4020b7-image.png

            That doesn't appear if you are running MeshCentral as root.
            fb75c8a2-06e8-4655-99a6-ccd2c644fd99-image.png

            The screenshot above is taken from this guide.
            Install Guide
            http://info.meshcentral.com/downloads/MeshCentral2/MeshCentral2InstallGuide-0.0.9.pdf

            User Guide
            http://info.meshcentral.com/downloads/MeshCentral2/MeshCentral2UserGuide-0.2.9.pdf

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            • syko24S
              syko24
              last edited by

              Has anyone tried using the noVNC option? I was pretty excited to see additional ways to remote desktop onto the computer as the default desktop viewer is sometimes a little limited. I couldn't get it to work. I wasn't sure is this was an AMT only option or if it should just work out of the box.

              https://meshcentral2.blogspot.com/

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @black3dynamite
                last edited by stacksofplates

                @black3dynamite said in MeshCentral Updates:

                @haxit said in MeshCentral Updates:

                also how would i resolve this

                536aeb9b-1afb-427e-85fb-68abdd4020b7-image.png

                That doesn't appear if you are running MeshCentral as root.
                fb75c8a2-06e8-4655-99a6-ccd2c644fd99-image.png

                The screenshot above is taken from this guide.
                Install Guide
                http://info.meshcentral.com/downloads/MeshCentral2/MeshCentral2InstallGuide-0.0.9.pdf

                User Guide
                http://info.meshcentral.com/downloads/MeshCentral2/MeshCentral2UserGuide-0.2.9.pdf

                I don't understand why 80 and 443 are being used. Just use 8080 and 8443 (or literally anything >1024) like other applications and either use a proxy or port redirection. This also disables LD_LIBRARY_PATH. And it looks like Node has specifically tried to stop this because any node process would be able to bind to root only ports: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/22648

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                  ScottyBoy
                  last edited by

                  Has this project been put under any security review or scrutiny? It seems to me like people are rushing to deploy beta software with full access to their environment and exposing it to the world without due diligence. This software is still in beta and there some reflags in the way people are installing it as well.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @ScottyBoy
                    last edited by

                    @ScottyBoy said in MeshCentral Updates:

                    Has this project been put under any security review or scrutiny? It seems to me like people are rushing to deploy beta software with full access to their environment and exposing it to the world without due diligence. This software is still in beta and there some reflags in the way people are installing it as well.

                    Well, these things may sound bad. But compare to the competition which is often under less review, releases to "production" what wouldn't qualify as beta here, and often requires worse installation.

                    It would be great if someone wants to do a security code review. But is there any product in this category that has gotten such a treatment? This is the only one even open for review. It's at least open and written in a modern way. Something few, if any, of its competition can say.

                    Name a product that is out there that isn't worse from this aspect? I've certainly seen none. Definitely not LogMeIn, ConnectWise or many others. This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel), made in a modern fashion, and open source. One of the most important rules in decision making - never avoid the best because it fails to be perfect. In an ideal world, everything would get a full security review. Short of that, you have to deal with realism and finding the best option.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @syko24
                      last edited by

                      @syko24 said in MeshCentral Updates:

                      Has anyone tried using the noVNC option? I was pretty excited to see additional ways to remote desktop onto the computer as the default desktop viewer is sometimes a little limited. I couldn't get it to work. I wasn't sure is this was an AMT only option or if it should just work out of the box.

                      https://meshcentral2.blogspot.com/

                      Not yet, but have been meaning to.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                        what wouldn't qualify as beta here, and often requires worse installation

                        I have a hard time believing that breaking system security or being forced to run the tool as root is not a worse instsllation.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                          This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                          Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            Let me remind you of what you said about Intel a few years ago after one of their pretty huge vulnerabilities.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                              @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                              This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                              Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                              Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                Let me remind you of what you said about Intel a few years ago after one of their pretty huge vulnerabilities.

                                Screenshot_20200616-085450.png

                                Good point. Shows how even I start to forget where these vendors totally screw up.

                                In my defense, I buy exclusively AMD, but start to forget what factors drove me there.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                  @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                  This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                                  Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                                  Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

                                  I never saw them advertise it. Where was that? The only thing I ever found was a blog post about it on an Intel site.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                    last edited by

                                    @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                    @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                    This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                                    Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                                    Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

                                    I never saw them advertise it. Where was that? The only thing I ever found was a blog post about it on an Intel site.

                                    Earlier version, they used to have it somewhere associated with the AMT products.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                      @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                      @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                      This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                                      Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                                      Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

                                      I never saw them advertise it. Where was that? The only thing I ever found was a blog post about it on an Intel site.

                                      Earlier version, they used to have it somewhere associated with the AMT products.

                                      Isn't the new version still associated with AMT?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                        This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                                        Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                                        Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

                                        I never saw them advertise it. Where was that? The only thing I ever found was a blog post about it on an Intel site.

                                        Earlier version, they used to have it somewhere associated with the AMT products.

                                        Isn't the new version still associated with AMT?

                                        Yes, but the AMT sites used to point to it. Maybe they still do, but I don't mean it pointing to AMT.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                          @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                          @stacksofplates said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MeshCentral Updates:

                                          This is at least a vastly more trustworthy vendor (Intel)

                                          Intel is a terrible vendor. Security especially and just overall not good. You've complained about how bad they are multiple times here. And it's being developed by a single person not Intel. They may back it in some way which has yet to be proven, but they are not the vendor. And while a single person may be helpful sometimes for quick responses in fixes, more often than not that isn't the case. How many people here who are demanding changes are contributing back to the project either through payments or through code commits? Hopefully this guy doesn't get burnt out like we've seen from other other tools that have popped up here before.

                                          Intel used to advertise it as an Intel product. "Yet to be proven" makes it sound like this has been somehow disputed in the past.

                                          I never saw them advertise it. Where was that? The only thing I ever found was a blog post about it on an Intel site.

                                          Earlier version, they used to have it somewhere associated with the AMT products.

                                          https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/blogs/meshcentral2-intel-amt-acmccm-agentagentless-activation.html

                                          That's the only thing I have ever seen referencing it not from the MeshCentral side. And that's just a blog on the Intel developer site.

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                                            ScottyBoy
                                            last edited by

                                            And not only that but Ylian himself says Intel is not involved. alt text

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