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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      I'm all for a good diet and for doing exercise... but I don't personally see exercise as part of the main regiment of weight control. Diet matters for more than 70% of it.
      I didn't do keto - just calorie reduction from Jan - April, lost 30 lbs. No exercise. I did a mock keto diet for May and lost about another 5 lbs.

      It completely depends on your goals and how you want to do it.

      If someone is overweight, and they eat 4000 calories per day, but exercise enough every day that they burn more calories than they consume, they will lose weight.

      Likewise, if someone is overweight, and they eat 4000 calories per day, NEVER exercise, then just suddenly stop eating (figuratively speaking), they'll also lose weight.

      Now I can say that it could 100% diet OR 100% exercise. It just depends. It's a balancing act.

      Neither exercise or diet alone will improve long-term health. Only a good combination of exercise, diet, and sleep can do that.

      Losing weight is a great start, however, and is certainly better than doing nothing.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Obsolesce
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        @obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:

        Losing weight is a great start, however, and is certainly better than doing nothing.

        Sometimes losing weight - - even if it is just a few pounds can improve sleep and other things too.

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        • EddieJenningsE
          EddieJennings
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          Something I noticed this morning.
          Weight recorded on May 2nd: 283.2
          Weight recorded on September 23rd (when I started tracking my calorie intake and got back into walking / light jog): 277.6
          Weight recorded this morning: 272.2

          I'll take it 😄

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          • zachary715Z
            zachary715
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            Right at 3 months in on my morning workout routine and it's going well. Surprised at how fairly easy it has been to maintain the mornings. Already seeing the physical results. Couldn't tell you how much weight I've lost/gained as I don't really care. I imagine it's little to none either way.

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @zachary715
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              @zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:

              Already seeing the physical results.

              That's what's important. I'm an evening person for exercise. Morning routines never work for me.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                @EddieJennings said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                @zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                Already seeing the physical results.

                That's what's important. I'm an evening person for exercise. Morning routines never work for me.

                Funny, I'm the exact opposite. I find it very challenging to workout after work. I just want to go home!

                Though, that said - I'm working out after work today, as I didn't get home until about midnight last night and 4 AM was to little sleep.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                  Funny, I'm the exact opposite. I find it very challenging to workout after work. I just want to go home!

                  Though, that said - I'm working out after work today, as I didn't get home until about midnight last night and 4 AM was to little sleep.

                  My exercise is laps around the apartment complex. So I go home, take a nap if needed, then get to walkin'

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @EddieJennings
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                    @EddieJennings said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                    @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                    Funny, I'm the exact opposite. I find it very challenging to workout after work. I just want to go home!

                    Though, that said - I'm working out after work today, as I didn't get home until about midnight last night and 4 AM was to little sleep.

                    My exercise is laps around the apartment complex. So I go home, take a nap if needed, then get to walkin'

                    There's a pretty big group of people who swim in the mornings where I go. Doing laps around the pool. That can be great exercise if you take it seriously, and may be easier to get into doing than running on the treadmill.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                      @EddieJennings said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                      @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                      Funny, I'm the exact opposite. I find it very challenging to workout after work. I just want to go home!

                      Though, that said - I'm working out after work today, as I didn't get home until about midnight last night and 4 AM was to little sleep.

                      My exercise is laps around the apartment complex. So I go home, take a nap if needed, then get to walkin'

                      awww.. yeah I'm going to have to run in the evenings... only time I can since I'll be working out before work, and don't want to wake at 3 am to run before the gym.

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                      • s.hacklemanS
                        s.hackleman
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                        Just dropping in for an update. So about 4 months ago, I joined a CrossFit box and I absolutely love it. Please skip the CrossFit is stupid, or a risk of injury, or etc. etc. etc. I get it, but I have found a gym and a community that pushes me to work out and try like I never have before in my life. I'm up to going 4 days a week at 5:30am. It is tough getting up that early, but it is the one time of the day that nothing conflicts. I haven't lost weight, but I have held near the same body fat and put on about 10lbs of muscle. I need to keep that in better check with diet, but I digress. I am lifting heavier than I ever have, and I can run a mile without stopping to catch my breath, and slowly getting in the best shape of my life. If anyone out there is thinking about trying it out, go for it. It isn't like the stereotypes, and you don't have to be an athlete to get started, everything scales.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @s.hackleman
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                          @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          Just dropping in for an update. So about 4 months ago, I joined a CrossFit box and I absolutely love it. Please skip the CrossFit is stupid, or a risk of injury, or etc. etc. etc. I get it, but I have found a gym and a community that pushes me to work out and try like I never have before in my life. I'm up to going 4 days a week at 5:30am. It is tough getting up that early, but it is the one time of the day that nothing conflicts. I haven't lost weight, but I have held near the same body fat and put on about 10lbs of muscle. I need to keep that in better check with diet, but I digress. I am lifting heavier than I ever have, and I can run a mile without stopping to catch my breath, and slowly getting in the best shape of my life. If anyone out there is thinking about trying it out, go for it. It isn't like the stereotypes, and you don't have to be an athlete to get started, everything scales.

                          That's awesome!

                          Yeah, 5:30am is the only time I can go to the gym as well. But after doing it like that for years, I don't think there's any other time I'd rather go. It makes for a good day every time, hard to wake up or not. After you get up and get there, you're golden.

                          It's hard to go by weight when that's the goal, because like you said, you're gaining muscle weight as you lose fat, and muscle weighs more than fat. So you need to both check weight AND body fat to more accurately track weight-loss progress.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @s.hackleman
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                            @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            Just dropping in for an update. So about 4 months ago, I joined a CrossFit box and I absolutely love it. Please skip the CrossFit is stupid, or a risk of injury, or etc. etc. etc. I get it, but I have found a gym and a community that pushes me to work out and try like I never have before in my life. I'm up to going 4 days a week at 5:30am. It is tough getting up that early, but it is the one time of the day that nothing conflicts. I haven't lost weight, but I have held near the same body fat and put on about 10lbs of muscle. I need to keep that in better check with diet, but I digress. I am lifting heavier than I ever have, and I can run a mile without stopping to catch my breath, and slowly getting in the best shape of my life. If anyone out there is thinking about trying it out, go for it. It isn't like the stereotypes, and you don't have to be an athlete to get started, everything scales.

                            The program I joined was/is similar. 6 days a week at 5 AM. M/W/F Kickboxing - kicking your ass - fast paced non stop - no built in water breaks or anything - you need one, you take it, then jump right back in with the rest of class. T/TH/Sat strength training with bands Leg/Arm/Leg swap Arm/Leg/Arm... They also set you up with a macro based diet. In my case it was 25g protein, 9g fat, 28g carbs 6 times a day (basically eat every 2.5-3 hrs while awake).
                            In 10 weeks I lost 10 lbs, went from a 8:27 mile to a 6:47 mile. I had already lost 30 lbs before joining this program, so I had less weight to loose, otherwise I'm sure that would have been higher. Body fat went from 20% to 15%.

                            Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                            I'm glad you found that!

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Dashrender
                              last edited by dafyre

                              @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                              Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                              In my mind, this is absolutely goal number 1. The weight loss and improved health are just positive side effects.

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                              • s.hacklemanS
                                s.hackleman @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                                In my mind, this is absolutely goal number 1. The weight loss and improved health are just positive side effects.

                                Yes, yes, yes. I was going to the Gym alone and lifting with headphones in. I was the youngest person in the gym and only a few people were actually trying. It was a group of local pastors and retired guys standing around with Fox News blaring. Not to knock on anyone, it just wasn't my crowd, and I was miserable and didn't even realize it. I was just going in half assing a work out and going home. Joining a place with people around to encourage and motivate was a complete game changer. It is weird how much I look forward to waking up and hitting the gym. Even when I have to travel, I will still go in and get a workout in before I have to get on a plane. Now I just need to find the same support and motivation to stick to a Nutrition program and lay off the high proof beer.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @s.hackleman
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                                  @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                  Now I just need to find the same support and motivation to stick to a Nutrition program and lay off the high proof beer.

                                  We have a local place called Max Muscle that has a program for this. Though there are tons (tonnes) of programs out there for this.

                                  Max Muscle will take a body fat measure, then give you a suggested diet plan based on your goals. Not sure on the cost.

                                  My 10 week fitness program had us track all of foods, along with their macro nutrient numbers (I just used MyFitnessPal app) and my group lead looked it over weekly and offered suggestions on ways to improve what I was eating.
                                  Now that I've joined the post 10 week program, I'm part of a FB group that people can post into for motivation, and others post about different foods/recipes they've tried.

                                  My wife joined a program called physician directed weight loss - basically a BS name to get buy-in from people, but it did work for it. They started her out on a small one page list of foods she could eat, along with a supplement program (you have to buy from them - yeah, that's where their real money comes from) record all your food, weekly weigh-ins, and a food coach.

                                  It's likely you can find a program via a local nutrition store.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                    Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                                    This is 100% true. I miss Taekwondo, and had to stop because of knee pain. My goal is to get in shape enough to return and practice without unnecessary pain.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                      last edited by Obsolesce

                                      @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      Though there are tons (tonnes)

                                      Ton is the only correct term when referring to the number or amount of things, in addition to weight. The others only apply to weight.

                                      https://imgur.com/xBh8Ktp

                                      https://imgur.com/ku4ycTF

                                      https://imgur.com/xJwURJR

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                        @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                        Though there are tons (tonnes)

                                        Ton is the only correct term when referring to the number or amount of things, in addition to weight. The others only apply to weight.

                                        https://imgur.com/xBh8Ktp

                                        https://imgur.com/ku4ycTF

                                        https://imgur.com/xJwURJR

                                        Shit tonne of materials would be appropriate though.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @EddieJennings
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                                          @EddieJennings said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                          @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                          Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                                          This is 100% true. I miss Taekwondo, and had to stop because of knee pain. My goal is to get in shape enough to return and practice without unnecessary pain.

                                          A buddy of mine got back in to fix his knee pain, ha ha. The human body is an amazing thing.

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                                          • NDCN
                                            NDC @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            @EddieJennings said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            @Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            Most important thing - finding something that motivates you and you enjoy doing.

                                            This is 100% true. I miss Taekwondo, and had to stop because of knee pain. My goal is to get in shape enough to return and practice without unnecessary pain.

                                            A buddy of mine got back in to fix his knee pain, ha ha. The human body is an amazing thing.

                                            Any place you train should be able to help with stuff like this. Tell your coaches that you have an injury or experience pain when doing certain types of exercise.

                                            All of the places I've worked out in, that were worth being a part of, have been able to modify the workout to accommodate the needs of most people.

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