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    Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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      @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

      All my systems except my poweredge servers is using uefi instead of bios and both are working correctly.

      My laptop should be UEFI. I can check tomorrow.

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      • notverypunnyN
        notverypunny
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        I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines? Or since this is a system that's been updated, an old or modified config that was needed previously but is causing grief with the latest round of updates.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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          @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

          I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

          Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

            Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

            Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

              @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

              @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

              I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

              Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

              Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

              It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

                Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

                Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

                It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

                When I get to the clients office I’ll remote in to my desk at home and see what graphics it has compared to my laptop.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

                  Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

                  Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

                  It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

                  Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                    @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                    @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                    I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

                    Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

                    Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

                    It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

                    Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

                    I will, yeah.

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite
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                      Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                        Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

                        firing up my laptop to see what happens

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                          @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                          Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

                          firing up my laptop to see what happens

                          Nope, reboot loop still.

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                            tyng
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                            Hi, I've had exactly the same problem on HP Pavilion Desktop PC. It goes black screen as soon as it boots. I'm running Fedora with XFCE desktop environment.

                            I temporarily boot on kernel 5.2.18. I've not tested kernel 5.3.7, and am reluctant to test any other version unless I'm sure the problem is fixed, because only three versions of the kernel are kept available in Grub. Two more updates, and I lose the only working version...

                            I have not seen the problem mentioned anywhere else... so it's difficult to find out when it can be fixed...

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @tyng
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @tyng said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                              Hi, I've had exactly the same problem on HP Pavilion Desktop PC. It goes black screen as soon as it boots. I'm running Fedora with XFCE desktop environment.

                              I temporarily boot on kernel 5.2.18. I've not tested kernel 5.3.7, and am reluctant to test any other version unless I'm sure the problem is fixed, because only three versions of the kernel are kept available in Grub. Two more updates, and I lose the only working version...

                              I have not seen the problem mentioned anywhere else... so it's difficult to find out when it can be fixed...

                              boot to the 5.2 kernel.
                              delete the newer kernels.
                              disable kernel updates in dnf.

                              If you can't figure that out from my post here, let me know.

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                                tyng
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                                Hi, I found the problem also mentioned here:
                                https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/dp8xvj/issues_with_the_kernel53x_series/
                                I don't know if the problem is known by the kernel upstream...

                                Regarding Fedora updates, I always run it manually from the command line, so I just enter: dnf upgrade -x kernel*

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                                  tyng @tyng
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                                  Fixed for me with kernel 5.3.12 (Don't know the exact version that solved the problem, it may be a previous version).

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                    @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                    @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                    I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

                                    Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

                                    Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

                                    It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

                                    Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

                                    And it worked fine. Doing the F31 update fixed it.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Issue returned for the last two weeks even on Fedora 31. Luckily the old F30 kernel was still there because of the lock and continued to work. But the 5.4 kernel came out today and it works again.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                        Issue returned for the last two weeks even on Fedora 31. Luckily the old F30 kernel was still there because of the lock and continued to work. But the 5.4 kernel came out today and it works again.

                                        I've had no issues again

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