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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Just because an organization has the right to stay using Windows 7, even with extended support, doesn't mean that there is any requirement or implication that other products will be licensed to work on it. Office 365 is free to impose any requirement that it wants for the products that it licenses.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

        @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

        They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.

        Do they? Based on what?

        They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite
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          Potential pop up reminder every time a user use a office 365 application?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

            @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

            @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

            They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.

            Do they? Based on what?

            They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?

            Because of the statement. If the license mirrors the statement that appears to be from the license, then valid support has nothing to do with it. Staying current, and being able to buy extended support, are two different things. According to what the statement says, you are required to stay current, and that means Windows 10 (and updated at that.) Now, we are presuming that MS got the statement wrong. But betting against MS' official announcement seems a bit reckless.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

              Potential pop up reminder every time a user use a office 365 application?

              Very possible.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by Dashrender

                @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                They have to allow corporations who still have service contracts to use it.

                Do they? Based on what?

                They are still in a valid support situation, what makes you believe that would be outside of this?

                Because of the statement. If the license mirrors the statement that appears to be from the license, then valid support has nothing to do with it. Staying current, and being able to buy extended support, are two different things. According to what the statement says, you are required to stay current, and that means Windows 10 (and updated at that.) Now, we are presuming that MS got the statement wrong. But betting against MS' official announcement seems a bit reckless.

                If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.

                Does it mean you must be on the most recent version of Windows - well, hell, that would mean you could only use O365 on 1903, soon to be 19H2, no older version would/should work.
                Does it mean an MS supported OS - then Win 7 and 8.1 are still covered.

                Sticking to the - stay current - in strict terms would cause MS HUGE headache, and likely lawsuits because all the new version of Windows 10 makes that challenging.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                  If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.

                  In the Windows world, current has a specific meaning that really doesn't change. Current means one of the OSes that is "currently available". Windows 7 is for several more weeks. Windows 8 is not. Windows 8.1 is, but not for much longer.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                    Does it mean you must be on the most recent version of Windows - well, hell, that would mean you could only use O365 on 1903, soon to be 19H2, no older version would/should work.
                    Does it mean an MS supported OS - then Win 7 and 8.1 are still covered

                    It means either the Windows 10 LTS release or the small set of current non-LTS versions.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                      Sticking to the - stay current - in strict terms would cause MS HUGE headache, and likely lawsuits because all the new version of Windows 10 makes that challenging.

                      How could it possibly lead to a lawsuit? There's isn't the slightest grey area here, it's 100% clear and 100% within their rights and completely logical for them to require that product A requires a product from list B. Tons of software companies do that, it's completely legal.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                        @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                        If they were truly required to stay current, then Windows 7 already wouldn't work and neither would Windows 8.1. Though that really depends on what - stay current - means.

                        In the Windows world, current has a specific meaning that really doesn't change. Current means one of the OSes that is "currently available". Windows 7 is for several more weeks. Windows 8 is not. Windows 8.1 is, but not for much longer.

                        uh - what? What does currently available mean?

                        Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco
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                          I can assure everyone that the user experience with O365 and Windows 7 is less than stellar. We still have a number of devs here on 7 (we have a migration plan in plce, hopefully by year end), but I've been dealing with all sorts of minute but annoying issues on those machines.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                            uh - what? What does currently available mean?

                            It means "current available from the vendor". It's plain English.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                              Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.

                              So "not available or current". Still... plain and simple.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Office 365 Pro Plus on Windows 7:

                                Windows 7 will still be "currently available" to enterprises that pay for support AND to those that do VDI in Azure.

                                And just in case you are trying to be ridiculous and claim that this means "current", MS spelled it out in the original statement so that you can't possibly be confused. This isn't ambiguous, hard, or non-obvious. Nor is it illegal or unethical. In fact, it's really, really good.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m
                                  last edited by wrx7m

                                  I won't have any Win 7 systems by that time. At least that is the goal. I was thinking it was Jan 20, 2020. Guess I just confabulated that based on the year being 2020. Still have about 40 systems to issue to replace them.

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