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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

      Also we don't know if this is Windows 10 Professional (or home) or some other version, so setting up Hyper-V on one installation may not be an option while keeping the system intact .

      Could go virtual box too

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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        @wrx7m said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

        @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

        Also we don't know if this is Windows 10 Professional (or home) or some other version, so setting up Hyper-V on one installation may not be an option while keeping the system intact .

        Could go virtual box too

        Still would have issues legally with it, but yeah. . . .

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

          @wrx7m said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

          @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

          Also we don't know if this is Windows 10 Professional (or home) or some other version, so setting up Hyper-V on one installation may not be an option while keeping the system intact .

          Could go virtual box too

          Still would have issues legally with it, but yeah. . . .

          Yeah. He would definitely need a license for both.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            @wrx7m said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

            @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

            @wrx7m said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

            @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

            Also we don't know if this is Windows 10 Professional (or home) or some other version, so setting up Hyper-V on one installation may not be an option while keeping the system intact .

            Could go virtual box too

            Still would have issues legally with it, but yeah. . . .

            Even if the client went with the vBox route, it might cost more in money to convert 1 system and import it than it would be to just connect the other disk into the system and teach the client how to select the boot device. .

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            • wrx7mW
              wrx7m
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              Yeah. Probably. I guess it just depends on if they need both accessible at the same time or just one or the other.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                @wrx7m said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                Yeah. Probably. I guess it just depends on if they need both accessible at the same time or just one or the other.

                By the very first post in this topic, the client is okay with dual booting. That would mean that they don't need access to both systems at the same time. . .

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                  1337
                  last edited by 1337

                  If he truly want to be able to run either one or the other, I suggest a hotswap drive enclosure. Insert the drive for the installation you wish to use.

                  If he wants access to his old PC from his new PC, I suggest virtualbox. There are of course other reasons to dual boot but I find this to be a common one. Virtualbox works extremely well for this.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Yeah there are plenty of reasons to want to keep a system around, but none of that matters in this case.

                    The simple solution, plug the one disk into the other chasis, show the client how to select the boot disk.

                    It's quick and it cost them near to nothing to have done. They get what they want from the system and @CCWTech can move on with his day.

                    If the client wants to spend more money on this, than other options can be considered, but I believe he was simply over thinking this one.

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                      1337
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                      Also don't forget that some clients can't have two computers on their desk, but if you show them how to remote desktop into their second PC, that might be all it takes to make them happy.

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                        1337 @DustinB3403
                        last edited by 1337

                        @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                        Yeah there are plenty of reasons to want to keep a system around, but none of that matters in this case.

                        The simple solution, plug the one disk into the other chasis, show the client how to select the boot disk.

                        It's quick and it cost them near to nothing to have done. They get what they want from the system and @CCWTech can move on with his day.

                        If the client wants to spend more money on this, than other options can be considered, but I believe he was simply over thinking this one.

                        Too complicated in my experience. For the user that is.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @1337
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                          @Pete-S said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                          Too complicated in my experience. For the user that is.

                          More complicated than a boot loader?

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
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                            Why not just create a new user on his pc, then copy the "2nd" pc's user to that new user folder. Then install anything he actually needs.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ
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                              Dual boot and virtualization seem kinda pointless when you running the exact same OS. It might make sense if you were testing and wanted to blow things up. But that doesn't seem to be the case here

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @IRJ
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                                @IRJ said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                Why not just create a new user on his pc, then copy the "2nd" pc's user to that new user folder. Then install anything he actually needs.

                                This would only pull the user files over and not the entire environment.

                                (I was under the impression that the user simply wants to run two distinct OS's because of some applications that are configured on each system)

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                  @IRJ said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                  Why not just create a new user on his pc, then copy the "2nd" pc's user to that new user folder. Then install anything he actually needs.

                                  This would only pull the user files over and not the entire environment.

                                  (I was under the impression that the user simply wants to run two distinct OS's because of some applications that are configured on each system)

                                  Is there any real reason for this? OP doesn't mention it either

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                    Is there any real reason for this? OP doesn't mention it either

                                    IDK, I thought the same thing as well, but I didn't not want to provide a potentially useful answer.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      Installing a boot loader (like grub) could probably work, but BIOS already has a boot loader built in. Adding the complexity of installing another boot loader on top of an existing installation, and then converting a physical installation from one host to a physical installation on another host, under a custom boot loader.

                                      Is way more complex, and likely would cause all sorts of issues.

                                      I would stick with using the existing BIOS to manage the boot device and simply train the customer how to hit F12 or Delete or whatever the boot selection key is at startup.

                                      You can name the boot devices from within the OS.

                                      Youtube Video – [00:19..]

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                        How would he even license this?

                                        As long as one of the Windows 10 copies is retail rather than OEM or he gets two OEMs for the same hardware...

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                          @IRJ said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                          Is there any real reason for this? OP doesn't mention it either

                                          IDK, I thought the same thing as well, but I didn't not want to provide a potentially useful answer.

                                          When the objective or goal itself is useless, any answer you feel is useful would then default to useless anyways.
                                          So, the only potentially useful answer would be to get the OP to re-evaluate the situation and perhaps approach it differently altogether.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Joining 2 Windows 10 Machines:

                                            How would he even license this?

                                            As long as one of the Windows 10 copies is retail rather than OEM or he gets two OEMs for the same hardware...

                                            You're incorrect here - Windows 10 OEM License Terms and Windows 10 Retail License Terms

                                            2.      Installation and Use Rights.
                                            
                                                a.      License. The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one instance of the software on your device (the licensed device), for use by one person at a time, so long as you comply with all the terms of this agreement. Updating or upgrading from non-genuine software with software from Microsoft or authorized sources does not make your original version or the updated/upgraded version genuine, and in that situation, you do not have a license to use the software.
                                            

                                            Both state the same terms and conditions. Each instance needs to have it's own license.

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