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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite
      last edited by

      I never dealt with satellite but I have dealt with slow Internet speed for hundreds of users and setting up something like squid proxy helped a lot.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
        last edited by

        @black3dynamite said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

        I never dealt with satellite but I have dealt with slow Internet speed for hundreds of users and setting up something like squid proxy helped a lot.

        That, too. Although that tends to only help with lots of users, it does extremely little for a single user because it can't share the cache.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          600ms isn't untenable. Can't do phone calls but with some proper setup you can get a lot of things working decently well.

          @travisdh1 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

          But now reality hits...Satellite Internet isn't all that great...it for sure does have the "Click, wait, bam" result and uploads do struggle...he will let me know how it goes tonight...

          Newer ones get pretty good. Older ones tend to be terribly slow.

          The currently available ones are still rather slow. 600-800ms, which is better than the original 3000+. The ones with good latency aren't available yet 😞

          Yeah, it is pretty bad right now...he has me coming back tomorrow to see if I can make it any better.

          lodge_ping_01.jpg

          These are the expected speed. Satellite guy can't fix this without telling you to not use their satellite. 600ms is the standard for "really good" satellite today. At 587, you are getting "better than expected", not worse.

          Satellite at 587 is worse than 1.5 meg (forgot it's ms speed) on our other service. So, I may be seeing if we can get out of the contract as the CEO complains that it is virtually unusable at his home/lodge now. I am heading there around 8:30 to check it out. I do know than when I connect via Teamviewer from here, it is noticeably laggy.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

            @black3dynamite said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

            I never dealt with satellite but I have dealt with slow Internet speed for hundreds of users and setting up something like squid proxy helped a lot.

            That, too. Although that tends to only help with lots of users, it does extremely little for a single user because it can't share the cache.

            yeah I was thinking about posting about a proxy server yesterday - but that doesn't help with a small number of users and the modern web. i.e. Facebook, streaming services, heck - MangoLassi... the content is constantly updated so the cacheing service would rarely come into play.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @garak0410
              last edited by

              @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              600ms isn't untenable. Can't do phone calls but with some proper setup you can get a lot of things working decently well.

              @travisdh1 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

              But now reality hits...Satellite Internet isn't all that great...it for sure does have the "Click, wait, bam" result and uploads do struggle...he will let me know how it goes tonight...

              Newer ones get pretty good. Older ones tend to be terribly slow.

              The currently available ones are still rather slow. 600-800ms, which is better than the original 3000+. The ones with good latency aren't available yet 😞

              Yeah, it is pretty bad right now...he has me coming back tomorrow to see if I can make it any better.

              lodge_ping_01.jpg

              These are the expected speed. Satellite guy can't fix this without telling you to not use their satellite. 600ms is the standard for "really good" satellite today. At 587, you are getting "better than expected", not worse.

              Satellite at 587 is worse than 1.5 meg (forgot it's ms speed) on our other service. So, I may be seeing if we can get out of the contract as the CEO complains that it is virtually unusable at his home/lodge now. I am heading there around 8:30 to check it out. I do know than when I connect via Teamviewer from here, it is noticeably laggy.

              Of course - realtime would be horrible at that lag - As Scott already mentioned that VOIP would be unusable.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                600ms isn't untenable. Can't do phone calls but with some proper setup you can get a lot of things working decently well.

                @travisdh1 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                But now reality hits...Satellite Internet isn't all that great...it for sure does have the "Click, wait, bam" result and uploads do struggle...he will let me know how it goes tonight...

                Newer ones get pretty good. Older ones tend to be terribly slow.

                The currently available ones are still rather slow. 600-800ms, which is better than the original 3000+. The ones with good latency aren't available yet 😞

                Yeah, it is pretty bad right now...he has me coming back tomorrow to see if I can make it any better.

                lodge_ping_01.jpg

                These are the expected speed. Satellite guy can't fix this without telling you to not use their satellite. 600ms is the standard for "really good" satellite today. At 587, you are getting "better than expected", not worse.

                Satellite at 587 is worse than 1.5 meg (forgot it's ms speed) on our other service. So, I may be seeing if we can get out of the contract as the CEO complains that it is virtually unusable at his home/lodge now. I am heading there around 8:30 to check it out. I do know than when I connect via Teamviewer from here, it is noticeably laggy.

                Of course - realtime would be horrible at that lag - As Scott already mentioned that VOIP would be unusable.

                I think it is time to use his power, name and money to get something better brought out there.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @garak0410
                  last edited by

                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  600ms isn't untenable. Can't do phone calls but with some proper setup you can get a lot of things working decently well.

                  @travisdh1 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                  But now reality hits...Satellite Internet isn't all that great...it for sure does have the "Click, wait, bam" result and uploads do struggle...he will let me know how it goes tonight...

                  Newer ones get pretty good. Older ones tend to be terribly slow.

                  The currently available ones are still rather slow. 600-800ms, which is better than the original 3000+. The ones with good latency aren't available yet 😞

                  Yeah, it is pretty bad right now...he has me coming back tomorrow to see if I can make it any better.

                  lodge_ping_01.jpg

                  These are the expected speed. Satellite guy can't fix this without telling you to not use their satellite. 600ms is the standard for "really good" satellite today. At 587, you are getting "better than expected", not worse.

                  Satellite at 587 is worse than 1.5 meg (forgot it's ms speed) on our other service. So, I may be seeing if we can get out of the contract as the CEO complains that it is virtually unusable at his home/lodge now. I am heading there around 8:30 to check it out. I do know than when I connect via Teamviewer from here, it is noticeably laggy.

                  Of course - realtime would be horrible at that lag - As Scott already mentioned that VOIP would be unusable.

                  I think it is time to use his power, name and money to get something better brought out there.

                  ffb3c641-adfb-4a3a-80ee-545ae6ca3b73-image.png

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                  • SteveMcDonaldS
                    SteveMcDonald
                    last edited by

                    I am a telecom consultant who's job it is to help IT managers and IT folks find useable fiber and other forms of ISP access.
                    I have access to networks that are often thought to be carrier-only, wireless tower link only and longhaul so let me do some exploration on this address where your CEO is struggling to get fiber and let me see what I can pull up in all my maps. I can be reached at 256-486-1988 or [email protected]. I work for free and am paid by the hundreds of carriers, so no cost to you to have me take a look. Look forward to hearing from you soon

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410
                      last edited by

                      My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @garak0410
                        last edited by

                        @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                        My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                        Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                        Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                          My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                          Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                          Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                          Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @garak0410
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                            @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                            @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                            @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                            My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                            Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                            Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                            Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                            misconfigured router.

                            You switched to using a real router. You have to set things up correctly.

                            Unlike the shit ass consumer stuff that you just let the thing do what it wants and be full of security holes.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              To actually know how to help, would require knowing what the software is actually doing (or not doing).

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @garak0410
                                last edited by

                                @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                You say "the wifi", but you didn't mention if you checked when plugged in directly.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @garak0410
                                  last edited by

                                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                  @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                  @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                  My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                  Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                                  Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                                  Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                                  Because DNS

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @garak0410
                                    last edited by

                                    @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                    @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                    @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                    My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                    Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                                    Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                                    Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                                    aww - so u-turn routing isn't working... or whatever it's called...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      You have a Unifi Wifi AP, what is the firewall?

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                        @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                        @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                        @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                        My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                        Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                                        Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                                        Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                                        aww - so u-turn routing isn't working... or whatever it's called...

                                        hairpin

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                          @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                          @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                          @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                          My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                          Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                                          Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                                          Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                                          aww - so u-turn routing isn't working... or whatever it's called...

                                          hairpin

                                          Yup, that's necessary for the DNS setup being used.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @wrx7m
                                            last edited by Dashrender

                                            @wrx7m said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                            @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                            @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                            @Dashrender said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                            @garak0410 said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:

                                            My first order of business - When on WiFi at his home/lodge, the app for his Milestone cameras says "Cannot Connect To Server"...I verified this and sure enough, when on the WiFi here, it won't connect. If I jump to 4G, it connects...if I use my home WIFi or at work it connects. Any suggestions on what to check to see why it is only being blocked on the WiFi here? Something in the UniFi GUI that I could fix? Or the new router I purchased?

                                            Where is the 'server'? is is something on that network at his house? or something in the cloud?

                                            Does accessing the internet work for things like gmail?

                                            Milestone server is a PC located in one of his 3 switch rooms on a 192.168.1.10 address. It has always broadcasted to a the Milestone XProtect Mobile app. And it still does. Just won't connect to the DNS name when on the local WiFi...if you drop to 4G, it works...if back on WiFi and I set a connection to that 192 address, it works...just not with the primary DNS name when on his WiFi.

                                            aww - so u-turn routing isn't working... or whatever it's called...

                                            hairpin

                                            Exactly - thanks.

                                            I know old Cisco PIX were not able to do that. Not sure ASA can. And no clue what the OP has for a firewall now...

                                            *edit - found the post/picture - OP has a ER-X from Ubiquiti.

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