New ISP Issues at CEO's Home
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@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@marcinozga said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
And can't your CEO get Verizon or whoever is in the area to run fiber to his house? Judging by the size of the house it looks like he could afford that.
Yeah he just needs it done right.
Or just move to some place practical.
First world ceo problems for sure
Yeah, having lived in the third world, I never run into these issues!
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
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@Emad-R said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
time to find another job if you dont sort this out
Oh I will...he can always go back to CenturyLink's 1.5 speed...at least it was consistent...
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@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
I was referring to standard networking experience. But I guess Canada has third world internet access compared to the US, because there are lots of businesses running with wireless internet, and the percent can be high depending on the industry.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
I was referring to standard networking experience. But I guess Canada has third world internet access compared to the US, because there are lots of businesses running with wireless internet, and the percent can be high depending on the industry.
The US is often third world compared to... the actual third world
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@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
People do this shit, for sure. I have a cradlepoint setup at a warehouse that they signed the lease on before I could qualify access. T1 only 1K a month with 90 day build out on 3-year contract. Thus, the cradlepoint.
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@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
I bet half our large customers do this. I keep advising them that the FIRST thing you check when choosing a location is the available infrastructure. But they keep choosing places because they are cheap without checking why!!
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@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
I bet half our large customers do this. I keep advising them that the FIRST thing you check when choosing a location is the available infrastructure. But they keep choosing places because they are cheap without checking why!!
And around here, if there is not a local ISP, you'd be looking at 10x the price for one of the big ISPs to run fiber, if they even care enough.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@IRJ said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Experience for what? No business does stuff like this? They dont put a new facility in a location without wired internet access. It just isnt done.
I bet half our large customers do this. I keep advising them that the FIRST thing you check when choosing a location is the available infrastructure. But they keep choosing places because they are cheap without checking why!!
And around here, if there is not a local ISP, you'd be looking at 10x the price for one of the big ISPs to run fiber, if they even care enough.
Yup, that's why it's so important to choose location wisely.
You know what they say... location, location, location.
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OP is just lucky the CEO doesn't want to get a point-to-point connection to the office instead.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
OP is just lucky the CEO doesn't want to get a point-to-point connection to the office instead.
That would have been simple, really.
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@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
OP is just lucky the CEO doesn't want to get a point-to-point connection to the office instead.
That would have been simple, really.
Depends if the OP has to become the company's de facto tower installer.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
OP is just lucky the CEO doesn't want to get a point-to-point connection to the office instead.
That would have been simple, really.
Depends if the OP has to become the company's de facto tower installer.
You just call up the local ISP and have them run the line. In any case, it's something you have to contract out. That it would cost a fortune doesn't come from his pocket, that it requires right of ways or permits or whatever, just things he orders, not things he does. Would be much less work than this.
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It's like if my customer demands that I build them a datacenter. Sure, building a datacenter is a huge amount of work, but I don't do that work. I just call up a datacenter contractor and tell them how big it needs to be.
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@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
OP is just lucky the CEO doesn't want to get a point-to-point connection to the office instead.
That would have been simple, really.
Depends if the OP has to become the company's de facto tower installer.
You just call up the local ISP and have them run the line. In any case, it's something you have to contract out. That it would cost a fortune doesn't come from his pocket, that it requires right of ways or permits or whatever, just things he orders, not things he does. Would be much less work than this.
I was thinking wireless, but your comment still applies regardless.
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@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
It's like if my customer demands that I build them a datacenter. Sure, building a datacenter is a huge amount of work, but I don't do that work. I just call up a datacenter contractor and tell them how big it needs to be.
Completely different power dynamic though. As an employee, typically your only real power move in an SMB is to leave when asked to do things you should be outsourcing.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
It's like if my customer demands that I build them a datacenter. Sure, building a datacenter is a huge amount of work, but I don't do that work. I just call up a datacenter contractor and tell them how big it needs to be.
Completely different power dynamic though. As an employee, typically your only real power move in an SMB is to leave when asked to do things you should be outsourcing.
Not when you get to things that you lack the legal ability to do. Building structures, trenching in right of ways, those things require permits, bonds, insurance, etc.
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@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
I've been sent to the house of a former owner before, so this scenario doesn't surprise me. Sounds like it will give you some good experience anyway.
Us too. We don't do residential work. But, 10% of our revenue is residential work. Why? Because we treat the Owner's/CEO's homes the same their the business.
garak0410's situation is pretty common, really. The owner/CEO knows they chose to build their mansion in the middle of nowhere with no service. They know how to roll with it. You just do what you can and they typically understand.
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@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@flaxking said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
@scottalanmiller said in New ISP Issues at CEO's Home:
It's like if my customer demands that I build them a datacenter. Sure, building a datacenter is a huge amount of work, but I don't do that work. I just call up a datacenter contractor and tell them how big it needs to be.
Completely different power dynamic though. As an employee, typically your only real power move in an SMB is to leave when asked to do things you should be outsourcing.
Not when you get to things that you lack the legal ability to do. Building structures, trenching in right of ways, those things require permits, bonds, insurance, etc.
If your SMB employer doesn't get permits, and you report them, it's because you're already planning to find a new job.
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@garak0410 You're doing fine. It sounds like you have access to the property while they are out of town. I would say if you don't get that pepwave re-configured to use the Ethernet wan by Saturday afternoon, I'd get a regular router and make sure he has his internet and WiFi back by the time he rolls in Sunday night..... You got this, just know when to fall back on plan "b".
