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    Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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      @StuartJordan said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

      Once taken over, they could possibly start charging a small fee for membership to include the help desk and monitoring products. A buy out normally look at ways of increasing profits.

      That would likely reduce profits. Especially given the support team layoffs. A product that makes its money via ad revenue can't realistically start charging, especially when functionality has been declining, not increasing. In order to do so they would need to maintain or increase the very things that they have been phasing out, and would just be expected to cause their existing users to leave.

      ZD isn't reckless, they are buying to operate the business, not to burn it down for a few months of increased profits. Profits don't go up just be increasing prices. That could easily be the nail in the coffin.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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        @StuartJordan said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

        A buy out company normally looks at ways of increasing profits.

        This is true, especially when buying a company running at a loss. But the primary way that buyouts do this across the board is not by doing things that the original company could have done. If charging for the software could have made money, we'd likely have seen it happen long ago. Instead what we expect is ZD to bring in their expertise and/or scale and leverage that to lower the overhead of SW to, they hope, a point where the existing model starts being profitable by not costing as much.

        Same model that ML was interested in using with them. We know how to operate a website at massive scale with a tiny fraction of their costs. What has been costing millions in infrastructure and staff at SW we could roll into our existing ops almost without noticing it! Yes, they have a ton of traffic, but not an amount that is significantly more than our existing infrastructure and support team handle today. We'd need no new people, and only a nominal increase in physical infrastructure. But we could shave millions from their cost.

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        • WLS-ITGuyW
          WLS-ITGuy
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          Is there a way I can close my account over there so I don't get spammed 😄

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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            @WLS-ITGuy said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

            Is there a way I can close my account over there so I don't get spammed 😄

            You can just request it, should any community people still be working. Community people are in the layoff list so far.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

              Community people are in the layoff list so far.

              As opposed to who? They've already terminated all of their previously valuable community members, going on a year now right?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                @scottalanmiller said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                Community people are in the layoff list so far.

                As opposed to who? They've already terminated all of their previously valuable community members, going on a year now right?

                They had a lot of bloat, it'll take a lot of layoffs to pair it down. But the community was mostly untouched before. Not completely, but mostly.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller I was referring to their "we're axing everyone who is a member of any other tech community"

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                    @scottalanmiller I was referring to their "we're axing everyone who is a member of any other tech community"

                    I expect that to stop. ZD has loads to lose by looking unprofessional. They aren't the small time, SMB focused wild west. Big corporate publishing has very different ways of handling things.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Maybe ZD is buying SpiteWorks to close SpiteWorks forever?

                      Hopes and prayers

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        One thing that is going to be a problem for the community now, is that the parent company J2 Global owns products like eFax, MyFax, FuseMail, Vipre AV, SugarSync, etc. Those are all potential customers of SW and will be a conflict of interest with other advertisers.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          SW will now be a peer with some of these businesses:

                          IGN
                          Mashable
                          PC Magazine
                          Askmen.com
                          Geek.com
                          Humble Bundle
                          Excel Micro
                          Vipre
                          SMTP, Inc.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller They'll just have to stop advertising on SpiteWorks from a green account and instead have un-sponsored ads/banners.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by scottalanmiller

                              Their new parent company has a profile on SW:

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/service-providers/60628-j2-global-inc

                              They claim to be an MSP.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                                Their new parent company has a profile on SW:

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/service-providers/60628-j2-global-inc

                                They claim to be an MSP.

                                They also have zero activity of any sort on that profile.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  And that j2 profile points to https://community.spiceworks.com/people/adamnadeau

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Someone should login to spiteworks and see if they'll be reinstating the accounts that were axed because of the tantrum of SpiteWorks management.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                                      Someone should login to spiteworks and see if they'll be reinstating the accounts that were axed because of the tantrum of SpiteWorks management.

                                      There is no reasonable change that someone has divulged that to J2 Global.

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                                      • Reid CooperR
                                        Reid Cooper
                                        last edited by Reid Cooper

                                        In this post about SW's viability: Jay mentioned hiring the new community managers as examples of how the platform was viable. Does laying them off imply something? They've delinked both accounts at this point.

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper
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                                          Might be the right time to add in this thought, too:

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/13/tumblr-once-sold-billion-owner-wordpress-just-bought-site-fraction-that/

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Spiceworks Just Got Acquired by Publisher Ziff-Davis:

                                            @scottalanmiller I was referring to their "we're axing everyone who is a member of any other tech community"

                                            I am still part on that community. It would be crazy if they axed a lot of the contributors at once.

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