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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

      @VoIP_n00b said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

      @scottalanmiller said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

      Fedora is what we use when we want "vanilla" KVM.

      I have been thinking about doing this. I am currently using Proxmox. The only thing holding me back in a good backup solution for KVM.

      We mostly moved the other way. From Vanilla KVM to Proxmox. lol

      😵

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        VoIP_n00b @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

        We mostly moved the other way. From Vanilla KVM to Proxmox. lol

        😵

        0_o?

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @VoIP_n00b
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          @VoIP_n00b said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

          @black3dynamite said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

          We mostly moved the other way. From Vanilla KVM to Proxmox. lol

          😵

          0_o?

          Switching from Vanilla KVM (CentOS -> Fedora -> Ubuntu) to Proxmox

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore
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            What advantages and in what situations does the Proxmox implementation have over straight KVM?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @jmoore
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              @jmoore said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

              What advantages and in what situations does the Proxmox implementation have over straight KVM?

              Well quite a few, but it's apple and oranges so keep that in mind. KVM is a "build it yourself" component, it's only the hypervisor. Think ESXi without vSphere. So KVM is great and you can do anything with it that you want, but you have to do it. If all you want is something simple and/or you want exactly what the OS does by default and/or you want something really complex and unique, this is obviously best.

              Proxmox builds a full virtualization suite on top of KVM (think XCP-NG on top of Xen) which gives you a standard web interface (instead of providing your own with a tool like virt-manager), a selection of options file systems, a selection of optional storage subsystems like CEPH and Gluster and DRBD, built in backups, cloning, monitoring, etc.

              Anything Proxmox can do, you can do without it. But it makes making a standard, easy to use and easy to set up system more straightforward. If you have a large number of techs / clients in combination, the virt-manager approach is difficult to scale. But Proxmox is easier with a single jump server to handle the web interfaces.

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              • brandon220B
                brandon220 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by brandon220

                Switching from Vanilla KVM (CentOS -> Fedora -> Ubuntu) to Proxmox
                @scottalanmiller Never thought I would hear those words from you!

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                  @jmoore said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                  What advantages and in what situations does the Proxmox implementation have over straight KVM?

                  Well quite a few, but it's apple and oranges so keep that in mind. KVM is a "build it yourself" component, it's only the hypervisor. Think ESXi without vSphere. So KVM is great and you can do anything with it that you want, but you have to do it. If all you want is something simple and/or you want exactly what the OS does by default and/or you want something really complex and unique, this is obviously best.

                  Proxmox builds a full virtualization suite on top of KVM (think XCP-NG on top of Xen) which gives you a standard web interface (instead of providing your own with a tool like virt-manager), a selection of options file systems, a selection of optional storage subsystems like CEPH and Gluster and DRBD, built in backups, cloning, monitoring, etc.

                  Anything Proxmox can do, you can do without it. But it makes making a standard, easy to use and easy to set up system more straightforward. If you have a large number of techs / clients in combination, the virt-manager approach is difficult to scale. But Proxmox is easier with a single jump server to handle the web interfaces.

                  Another big one for me is the role-based permissions.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                    @jmoore said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                    What advantages and in what situations does the Proxmox implementation have over straight KVM?

                    Well quite a few, but it's apple and oranges so keep that in mind. KVM is a "build it yourself" component, it's only the hypervisor. Think ESXi without vSphere. So KVM is great and you can do anything with it that you want, but you have to do it. If all you want is something simple and/or you want exactly what the OS does by default and/or you want something really complex and unique, this is obviously best.

                    Proxmox builds a full virtualization suite on top of KVM (think XCP-NG on top of Xen) which gives you a standard web interface (instead of providing your own with a tool like virt-manager), a selection of options file systems, a selection of optional storage subsystems like CEPH and Gluster and DRBD, built in backups, cloning, monitoring, etc.

                    Anything Proxmox can do, you can do without it. But it makes making a standard, easy to use and easy to set up system more straightforward. If you have a large number of techs / clients in combination, the virt-manager approach is difficult to scale. But Proxmox is easier with a single jump server to handle the web interfaces.

                    Another big one for me is the role-based permissions.

                    Yeah that's a huge thing. You can kind supposedly kind of do it with libvirt/qemu but you need to use polkit.

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore
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                      Got it, thanks.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                        @brandon220 said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                        Switching from Vanilla KVM (CentOS -> Fedora -> Ubuntu) to Proxmox
                        @scottalanmiller Never thought I would hear those words from you!

                        IKR

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @brandon220
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                          @brandon220 said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                          Switching from Vanilla KVM (CentOS -> Fedora -> Ubuntu) to Proxmox
                          @scottalanmiller Never thought I would hear those words from you!

                          we have a whole thread on this someplace.

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                            callimarie
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                            uhh i keep getting this error "The libvirtd service does not appear to be installed. Install and run the libvirtd service to manage virtualization on this host."

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @callimarie
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                              @callimarie said in Run virt-manager on Windows 10:

                              uhh i keep getting this error "The libvirtd service does not appear to be installed. Install and run the libvirtd service to manage virtualization on this host."

                              So did you do what it said?

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