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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

      Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
      Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

      Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

        Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
        Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

        Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

        I don't follow.

        I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
        Thanks

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

            @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

            @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

            Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
            Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

            Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

            I don't follow.

            I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
            Thanks

            I believe this is where he was going.

            setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
            setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

            setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

            But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

            So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

              But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

              One thing at a time. Conflating issues is a horrible common scenario from you.

              While this is needed to get the entire package, don't short circuit the process.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                But that still doesn't solve the SMTP issue - which if can't be solved, kills this whole discussion.

                One thing at a time. Conflating issues is a horrible common scenario from you.

                While this is needed to get the entire package, don't short circuit the process.

                Fine - new post coming.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/64920054/fine.jpg

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller still waiting on you to clarify what you meant.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                      @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                      @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                      Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
                      Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

                      Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

                      I don't follow.

                      I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
                      Thanks

                      I believe this is where he was going.

                      setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
                      setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

                      setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

                      But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

                      So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

                      Like that, but more like...

                      webmail.domain.com on CF A Record
                      webmail.wtfdomain.com on LAN DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com
                      webmail.wtfdomain.com on Public DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @JaredBusch said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                        Use NSLOOKUP to find CF assigned IP Proxy for webmail.domain.com
                        Change local DNS to point webmail to previously found IP

                        Ideally you don't want a local override, but to use a DNS entry that is external only. Off the top of my head, what if you gave a public hostname to the service, and an internal CNAME to point to that so that internal users do the same thing, but they are really hitting CF's round robin service just the same?

                        I don't follow.

                        I want users to use webmail.domain.com no matter where they are located. Please use that as a starting point and be specific on your thoughts.
                        Thanks

                        I believe this is where he was going.

                        setup webmail.domain.com on CF as you have.
                        setup wtf.domain.com on CF as a cname pointing to webmail.domain.com

                        setup a webmail.domain.com on your local DNS pointing to wtf.domain.com

                        But the problem is that as long as you use domain.com you need to point the internal DNS to a Cloudflare IP because of the entire split-dns disaster.

                        So I would also like @scottalanmiller to clarify.

                        Like that, but more like...

                        webmail.domain.com on CF A Record
                        webmail.wtfdomain.com on LAN DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com
                        webmail.wtfdomain.com on Public DNS CNAME pointing to webmail.domain.com

                        Ok, a second domain. That I expect to work liek this.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                          I'm frazzled this morning - so I might be missing something.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                            Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                            I'm frazzled this morning - so I might be missing something.

                            I would just use an A record on your local DNS pointing to WTF ever Cloudflare resolves your FQDN to.

                            But paying more attention to what @scottalanmiller said, he has that backwards on the second domain.

                            CF: A Record: webmail.domain.com pointing to your public IP, orange cloud on.
                            CF: CNAME: webmail.wtfdomain.com pointing to webmail.domain.com
                            Local DNS: CNAME: webmail.domain.com pointing to webmail.wtfdomain.com

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Moving to Cloudflare proxy:

                              Seriously you want me to buy another domain to fix this?

                              Yes, because someone screwed up with the original domain, so yes, you need to either fix that or do something to work around it. Mistakes have costs, this is a pretty trivial one.

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