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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

      @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

      hypervisor or host?

      Those are generally the same thing.

      Damn are we reading each other's minds today!

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      • DonahueD
        Donahue
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        ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Donahue
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          @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

          ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

          That's the wrong thing to look at. You want your VM's to not sync with ESXi. And maybe you don't want ESXi to sync with the hardwarde (because you can sync to the internet).

          In the settings for VMWare tools in the VMs there should be setting - sync with ESXi or something... disable that.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Donahue
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            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

            ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

            You can set your guests time server to be something other than the host.

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            • DonahueD
              Donahue
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              ok, that setting was already disabled in the VMWare tools options, so that's not the problem.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Donahue
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                @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                ok, that setting was already disabled in the VMWare tools options, so that's not the problem.

                Fix it anyway. The host time needs to be right.

                Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

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                • DonahueD
                  Donahue
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                  The host time has been set correctly, but I don't think that was the source of the problem. Time Sync.PNG

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                  • DonahueD
                    Donahue @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                    Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                    But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Donahue
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                      @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                      Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                      But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

                      Didn't say it was. Just saying fix this problem also.

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                      • DonahueD
                        Donahue @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                        @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                        Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                        But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

                        Didn't say it was. Just saying fix this problem also.

                        oh ok, I understand.

                        I feel like maybe there is some sort of group policy that should be set to make this sync work correctly, and that somehow mine is not set. Although, this problem is only recent.

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                        • DonahueD
                          Donahue
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                          I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Donahue
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                            I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                            Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                            And your host (the hardware) was off.

                            But Windows was not moving it too far..

                            Answer: Windows sucks.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                              @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                              I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                              Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                              And your host (the hardware) was off.

                              But Windows was not moving it too far..

                              Answer: Windows sucks.

                              Interesting - does EXSi not virtualized the hardware clock to itself as well?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                Answer: Windows sucks.

                                Interesting - does EXSi not virtualized the hardware clock to itself as well?

                                English please?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                  @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                  @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                  I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                  Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                  And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                  But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                  Answer: Windows sucks.

                                  Interesting - does EXSi not virtualized the hardware clock to itself as well?

                                  English please?

                                  Does ESXi provide direct access the the real hardware clock, or does it create a virtual HW clock that is basically the time EXSi has itself - which could be different from the real hardware.

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                                  • DonahueD
                                    Donahue @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                    Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                    And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                    But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                    Answer: Windows sucks.

                                    Interesting - does EXSi not virtualized the hardware clock to itself as well?

                                    English please?

                                    Does ESXi provide direct access the the real hardware clock, or does it create a virtual HW clock that is basically the time EXSi has itself - which could be different from the real hardware.

                                    how would it do that? I dont think you could have a virtualized clock unless it was tied to some authoritative time sources, and the only two I can think of are the hardware clock and an NTP type clock.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                      Answer: Windows sucks.

                                      😂

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                                      • DonahueD
                                        Donahue @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                        @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                        I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                        Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                        And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                        But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                        Answer: Windows sucks.

                                        the host clock was out like 8 hours, because it wasnt set to the correct time zone. Although, maybe it drifted by the 6 minutes and windows itself was correcting for the time zone difference? I now wish I would have looked before I just set it to an NTP source. It might have been the smoking gun I was looking for.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                          @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                          @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                          I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                          Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                          And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                          But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                          Answer: Windows sucks.

                                          Interesting - does EXSi not virtualized the hardware clock to itself as well?

                                          English please?

                                          Does ESXi provide direct access the the real hardware clock, or does it create a virtual HW clock that is basically the time EXSi has itself - which could be different from the real hardware.

                                          The "hardware" clock as far as a VM is concerned is WTF ever the host reports to it when the guest asks.

                                          As for what the host reports? likely whatever time it has. I've never bothered to dig that deep into the stack because it doesn't matter.

                                          You setup your clocks to sync to proper sources and you never have a problem.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Donahue
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                                            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                            I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                            Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                            And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                            But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                            Answer: Windows sucks.

                                            the host clock was out like 8 hours, because it wasnt set to the correct time zone. Although, maybe it drifted by the 6 minutes and windows itself was correcting for the time zone difference? I now wish I would have looked before I just set it to an NTP source. It might have been the smoking gun I was looking for.

                                            Of course it would Timezones don't matter.

                                            This means you were not off by 8 hours.

                                            All systems use UTC.

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