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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      What does nslookup tell you?

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by wirestyle22

        @scottalanmiller it tells me it's requesting from the primary dc and that the dc doesn't know what the address is.

        Can't find, non-existent domain

        Should've been resolved by fixing the forwarders

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

          @scottalanmiller it tells me it's requesting from the primary dc and that the dc doesn't know what the address is.

          Can't find, non-existent domain

          Should've been resolved by fixing the forwarders

          Nope. The local DNS server likely "owns" domain.com

          So you will have to put in records for the public sutff on domain.com. This is perfectly normal "split brain" DNS setup typical in almost every Windows shop on the planet.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

            @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

            @scottalanmiller it tells me it's requesting from the primary dc and that the dc doesn't know what the address is.

            Can't find, non-existent domain

            Should've been resolved by fixing the forwarders

            Nope. The local DNS server likely "owns" domain.com

            So you will have to put in records for the public sutff on domain.com. This is perfectly normal "split brain" DNS setup typical in almost every Windows shop on the planet.

            Bingo!

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22
              last edited by wirestyle22

              So the reference to the website is on a local dns server and since the local server has no A record it's never hitting the forwarders because it's assuming it doesn't exist

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              • coliverC
                coliver @wirestyle22
                last edited by coliver

                @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                So the reference to the website is on a local dns server and since the local server has no A record it's never hitting the forwarders because it's assuming it doesn't exist

                If it's a Primary Zone (which it probably is) it will never go to forwarders from itself. It just assumes it knows everything about the Zone.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                  So the reference to the website is on a local dns server and since the local server has no A record it's never hitting the forwarders because it's assuming it doesn't exist

                  Correct.

                  To fix this, you need to add the records for that domain to your local DNS. The main issue you will likely run into is the no host domain name. i.e. microsoft.com... this would belong to your AD servers I believe, and you don't want to change that to point to your web server.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                      Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                      What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                        @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                        Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                        What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                        ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                          @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                          Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                          What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                          He's too young to know the old days.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                            @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                            @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                            Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                            What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                            He's too young to know the old days.

                            wat explain old man

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                              @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                              @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                              Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                              What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                              ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

                              If it looks like this, then it owns domain.com

                              0_1541003666906_37e6ed15-1833-4522-b29e-14a6a5f9fb5b-image.png

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                                @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                                @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                                What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                                ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

                                If it looks like this, then it owns domain.com

                                0_1541003666906_37e6ed15-1833-4522-b29e-14a6a5f9fb5b-image.png

                                It does

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  The red box not masking, is the A record for domain.com

                                  Everything here is subdomain.domain.com and has matching records on CloudFlare for when not in the office...

                                  0_1541003917152_181b885d-e0ce-4288-8c0e-aaa795316397-image.png

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                                  • PhlipElderP
                                    PhlipElder
                                    last edited by

                                    Are these Active Directory based domain controllers with AD integrated DNS set up?

                                    Then DNS0 on all DCs should point to itself only. By default no other DNS server IP entry should be set on the NIC other than 127.0.0.1. Ever.

                                    AD integrated DNS takes care of replicating changes and IDs among the DCs in a given forest/domain.

                                    Never, ever, put a public DNS server anywhere but in the Forwarders location on an AD integrated DNS server.

                                    DHCP should be handing out DNS entries for the AD DC DNS servers local to them or a tertiary if need-be for redundancy.

                                    It sounds like whomever set things up had no idea how DNS works. 😛

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @PhlipElder
                                      last edited by

                                      @PhlipElder totally.

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                                      • PhlipElderP
                                        PhlipElder @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                        @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                        Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                                        What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                                        ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

                                        If it looks like this, then it owns domain.com

                                        0_1541003666906_37e6ed15-1833-4522-b29e-14a6a5f9fb5b-image.png

                                        Oh man, what a mess.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @PhlipElder
                                          last edited by

                                          @PhlipElder said in DNS Update Issue:

                                          @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                          @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                          Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                                          What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                                          ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

                                          If it looks like this, then it owns domain.com

                                          0_1541003666906_37e6ed15-1833-4522-b29e-14a6a5f9fb5b-image.png

                                          Oh man, what a mess.

                                          Meh, not bad actually. Perfect? No. But small enough to not be a problem really.

                                          Definitely not what I would do now if I set it up new.

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                                          • PhlipElderP
                                            PhlipElder @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by PhlipElder

                                            @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            @PhlipElder said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            @JaredBusch said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            @Dashrender said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in DNS Update Issue:

                                            Simple case of me never doing this wrong I guess. What a weird thing to screw up. Didn't really have time to sift through it all.

                                            What do you normally use for your top level domain on an AD build?

                                            ad.domain.com theoretically. Everything I've ever touched is already in place. Although i'd love to rebuild my families infrastructure from the ground up.

                                            If it looks like this, then it owns domain.com

                                            0_1541003666906_37e6ed15-1833-4522-b29e-14a6a5f9fb5b-image.png

                                            Oh man, what a mess.

                                            Meh, not bad actually. Perfect? No. But small enough to not be a problem really.

                                            Definitely not what I would do now if I set it up new.

                                            Okay, the masking threw me off.

                                            _msdcs.domain.local
                                            domain.com
                                            domain.local
                                            ^^Zones?

                                            Why domain.com?

                                            When we split DNS we usually leave domain.com to Internet DNS even if Location.Domain.Com is internal.

                                            Then we set up the required internal DNS FLZs for services:
                                            Remote.Domain.Com
                                            SharePoint.Domain.Com
                                            Mail.Domain.Com
                                            LoB.Domain.Com

                                            Application Request Routing (ARR) is used to parlay incoming HTTPS calls to their respective owners (RDS, Exchange, SharePoint, LoB) so we only require one WAN IP address with Internet DNS A records for the above pointing to the WAN IP address.

                                            EDIT: To get around the AutoDiscover.Domain.Com we use the _autodiscover SRV record method.

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