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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Sigh - these registry settings don't fix the issue.

      And I'm starting to get more users complaining about this issue.

      So far I only seem to be able to fix it manually via the GUI.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        I figure I owe an update here.

        These reg entries are in hex... 00000078 = 120 (seconds) in decimal. i.e. 2 mins.. sigh I completely over looked this. No wonder the times weren't changing.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

          I think I've figured it out.

          The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
          The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

          The three different sections are for

           [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
           "Attributes"=dword:00000002
          
          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
          "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          
          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
          "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          
          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
          "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
          
          

          So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

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          • kamidonK
            kamidon
            last edited by kamidon

            I had this issue with my HP Omen, but it went away after going back to Windows from Fedora...when I failed miserably to play games on Linux....lol

            My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @kamidon
              last edited by

              @kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

              Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.

              @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

              That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.

              But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                    Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                      Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @RojoLoco
                        last edited by

                        @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                        powercfg-hibernate off
                        

                        is what you're thinking ?

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @RojoLoco
                          last edited by wrx7m

                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                          I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @wrx7m
                            last edited by

                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                            I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                            You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                              Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                              Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                              Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                              Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                              I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                              You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                              Ahhh. I see.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                Nope - not according to MS
                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                  Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                  Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                  I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                  You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                  Nope - not according to MS
                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                  You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

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                                  • J
                                    JasGot @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                    Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                    Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                    I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                    You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                    Nope - not according to MS
                                    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                    "... a fast startup simply loads the hibernation file (Hiberfil.sys) into memory to restore the previously saved image of the Windows kernel and loaded drivers."

                                    This is a hibernation explanation is its simplest form.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                      Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                      I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                      You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                      Nope - not according to MS
                                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                      You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                      Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                        I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                        You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                        Nope - not according to MS
                                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                        You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                        Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

                                        Exactly - and as such is why it's not hibernation.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                          I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                          You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                          Nope - not according to MS
                                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                          You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                          Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

                                          Exactly - and as such is why it's not hibernation.

                                          Seriously - who needs this? I surely don't. If I'm rebooting - it's because I need a kernel restart/reload, not as a way to kill all my applications - a logoff/logon does that.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m
                                            last edited by wrx7m

                                            For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

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