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      What type of businesses are we talking about?
      There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        So the popular RISC processors that we use regularly include...

        ARM (in nearly all phones, tablets, and many netbooks that don't run Windows), Power (IBM's processor family), PowerPC (old Macs), Sparc (Oracle's server processors), MIPS (older servers, Nintendo 64, lots of NAS devices), PA-RISC (HP's forerunner to Itanium), Alpha (DEC's amazing server proc), etc.

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          scottalanmiller @1337
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          @pete-s said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

          What type of businesses are we talking about?
          There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

          In the third world, Windows being the only game is pretty rare. There is extremely little use of proprietary apps.

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            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller lol I see that now

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller haha I've got an assembly book for the m68000

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I believe we have an old Alpha running some old software for some user

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller So what is your opinion of IBM's Power processor? I meant to look at it a while back because I was looking for an alternative to Intels stuff but I forgot to go back to it

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                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                    @jmoore said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                    @scottalanmiller I believe we have an old Alpha running some old software for some user

                    OMG, that is SO old.

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                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                      @jmoore said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                      @scottalanmiller So what is your opinion of IBM's Power processor? I meant to look at it a while back because I was looking for an alternative to Intels stuff but I forgot to go back to it

                      Oh, it's amazing. But is it worth the price? Power is the current leader in best processor on the market. It and Sparc are really the only games in the super high end category now that Itanium has really just faded away. Oracle has not been doing as much with Sparc as they should have, though.

                      The thing that is limiting about Power is the specialty hardware you need for just about everything involved with it. So while Power is the best processor you can get, you can only get it in IBM servers which I would never consider buying.

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                        Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                        @pete-s said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                        What type of businesses are we talking about?
                        There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

                        In the third world, Windows being the only game is pretty rare. There is extremely little use of proprietary apps.

                        If you remove mobile from the equation Windows is close to the only game in town: http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share.

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                          scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                          @kelly said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                          @pete-s said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                          What type of businesses are we talking about?
                          There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

                          In the third world, Windows being the only game is pretty rare. There is extremely little use of proprietary apps.

                          If you remove mobile from the equation Windows is close to the only game in town: http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share.

                          Not really. It might be primarily what is used, but it has no advantage as no one uses anything proprietary.

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                            @kelly said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                            @pete-s said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                            What type of businesses are we talking about?
                            There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

                            In the third world, Windows being the only game is pretty rare. There is extremely little use of proprietary apps.

                            If you remove mobile from the equation Windows is close to the only game in town: http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share.

                            Not really. It might be primarily what is used, but it has no advantage as no one uses anything proprietary.

                            I'm not following you. Are you saying that the software that is used is not Windows specific?

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                              scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                              @kelly said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                              @kelly said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                              @pete-s said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                              What type of businesses are we talking about?
                              There are a lot of areas where Windows is the only game in town.

                              In the third world, Windows being the only game is pretty rare. There is extremely little use of proprietary apps.

                              If you remove mobile from the equation Windows is close to the only game in town: http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share.

                              Not really. It might be primarily what is used, but it has no advantage as no one uses anything proprietary.

                              I'm not following you. Are you saying that the software that is used is not Windows specific?

                              Correct. Mostly they use web browsers, or simple documents. Even if everyone around them uses Windows, they don't need to. This is why Microsoft hates version sprawl. When you have XP, 7, 8 all in use, people are already forced to be non-standard in everything that they do. So common ground is simple things like web and text. In that kind of environment where you can't control your OS, you naturally become OS agnostic.

                              So even though "Windows" might control the OS space, Windows of a specific version does not. And even a little MacOS would cause big disruption if things weren't agnostic. Since people essentially never get to chose their OS or its version.

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                                Education may be a part of it. You can easily find missionaries/volunteers who can teach the basics of windows to someone who has never used it. I've tried to get people to just play with Linux and they just don't care to learn.

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                                  Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                                  Education may be a part of it. You can easily find missionaries/volunteers who can teach the basics of windows to someone who has never used it. I've tried to get people to just play with Linux and they just don't care to learn.

                                  If the GUIs are as good as some people claim (I'm not one of them) then why would a user care if they are learning a Windows GUI vs a Linux based one?

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                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                                    Education may be a part of it. You can easily find missionaries/volunteers who can teach the basics of windows to someone who has never used it. I've tried to get people to just play with Linux and they just don't care to learn.

                                    Nothing to learn, you just use it. If people are only willing to teach what isn't good for someone, that's called "an agenda."

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                                      Education may be a part of it. You can easily find missionaries/volunteers who can teach the basics of windows to someone who has never used it. I've tried to get people to just play with Linux and they just don't care to learn.

                                      If the GUIs are as good as some people claim (I'm not one of them) then why would a user care if they are learning a Windows GUI vs a Linux based one?

                                      No one does. There's no need to learn one or the other. If you give Linux to people instead of windows, they will "just use it". Only in America with the mass advertising that "Linux is hard" do people think or believe that they would have to "learn something."

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                                        jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller Ok cool. Why would you not buy an IBM server? Im going to look at their offerings today to familiarize myself

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                                          coliver @jmoore
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                                          @jmoore said in Why is the Third World Running Windows?:

                                          @scottalanmiller Ok cool. Why would you not buy an IBM server? Im going to look at their offerings today to familiarize myself

                                          Does IBM make servers anymore? I though Lenovo took it over? Although that may have just been the IA32 market.

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                                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller That is another problem we have here. People are allergic to learning. Learning something should be a daily thing. Study of something helps the mind so much.

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