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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

      @scottalanmiller said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

      @smitherick said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

      That looks so enticing!

      Seriously, I REALLY want to waste $250 on this, but I just got a new desktop last week, which is pretty awesome as it is, my first new machine in nearly 18 years. But I really want to test one of these out.

      You got a DESKTOP? Are you actually planning to stay put for a bit, or is it one of those small form factor ones?

      That RockChip looks like a nice piece of kit.

      Ha, I did.

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        StorageNinja Vendor
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        Just had IBM come by the house today and swap batteries on my 3 year old Mac Book Pro, clean the fans and swap the lower chassis. I swear this thing feels lighter (was a lot of dust).

        Are browser plugins a thing on ARM? Is greeseMonkey there etc?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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          @storageninja said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

          Just had IBM come by the house today and swap batteries on my 3 year old Mac Book Pro, clean the fans and swap the lower chassis. I swear this thing feels lighter (was a lot of dust).

          IBM makes house calls on Mac desktops? I couldn't even get them to service IBM servers!

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            What are you going to do with it?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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              @storageninja said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

              Are browser plugins a thing on ARM? Is greeseMonkey there etc?

              Aren't plugins often JS? I'm not aware of any platform specific plugins, especially as ChromeOS is primarily on ARM, it's pretty important for those plugins to work there.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                @obsolesce said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                What are you going to do with it?

                I want it for a real desktop, for every day use.

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                • Emad RE
                  Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller

                  This is much cheaper:

                  https://libre.computer/products/boards/roc-rk3399-pc/

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                  • AdamFA
                    AdamF @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller So what did you end up going with for your desktop? I also realized recently that I want a new one as well for the office.

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                      1337
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                      It's just not powerful enough.

                      It's in the chromebook / tablet category of CPUs so it lacks a lot of power compared to Intel mobile processors used in real laptops and similar.

                      An Intel NUC with an i3 CPU will be a MUCH better desktop for just a little more money.

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                        bnrstnr @1337
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                        @pete-s said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                        An Intel NUC with an i3 CPU will be a MUCH better desktop for just a little more money.

                        I think part of the appeal is that it's NOT Intel

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @bnrstnr
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                          @bnrstnr said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                          @pete-s said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                          An Intel NUC with an i3 CPU will be a MUCH better desktop for just a little more money.

                          I think part of the appeal is that it's NOT Intel

                          and it's ARM.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            How is it different than a Pi?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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                              @obsolesce said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                              How is it different than a Pi?

                              More memory it's the biggest difference. A pi3 can actually run a desktop, whereas versions 1 and 2 just didn't quite have enough memory to run a desktop well. Even pi3 with 1gb of ram can't be used as an everyday desktop because it runs out of memory so quickly. So something with 4gb of ram suddenly becomes something that could be used as a daily driver.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce
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                                This one looks better price-wise: http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=225&sort=p.price&order=DESC

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  Too bad I can't send a few of those to a Colo.

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                                  • jmooreJ
                                    jmoore
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                                    What's the attraction to ARM over Intel?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                      @jmoore said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                                      What's the attraction to ARM over Intel?

                                      ARM over AMD you mean? No one makes an IA64 based desktop system, that's Intel's architecture. ARM and AMD are the only games in the consumer space or business desktop space.

                                      ARM is higher performance for the same power consumption, by a bit. And often can do passive cooling while being highly performant.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                        @obsolesce said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                                        Too bad I can't send a few of those to a Colo.

                                        There are ways.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                          @obsolesce said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                                          This one looks better price-wise: http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=225&sort=p.price&order=DESC

                                          Whoa, good find!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                            @travisdh1 said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                                            @obsolesce said in ARM Desktop I Finally Want:

                                            How is it different than a Pi?

                                            More memory it's the biggest difference. A pi3 can actually run a desktop, whereas versions 1 and 2 just didn't quite have enough memory to run a desktop well. Even pi3 with 1gb of ram can't be used as an everyday desktop because it runs out of memory so quickly. So something with 4gb of ram suddenly becomes something that could be used as a daily driver.

                                            Memory is big, but processor is, too. This is the OP-1, super high end desktop processor that Google ordered from RockChip. It's used in the top low power Chromebooks. Extremely powerful.

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