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    • Bill KindleB
      Bill Kindle
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      So are there any free VOIP services out there that you can configure on Linphone to make actual calls to phone numbers or do you have to use a VOIP provider to do so? It seems as though you can only make calls to another SIP address.

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        thanksajdotcom @Bill Kindle
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        @Bill-Kindle said:

        So are there any free VOIP services out there that you can configure on Linphone to make actual calls to phone numbers or do you have to use a VOIP provider to do so? It seems as though you can only make calls to another SIP address.

        I saw a tutorial once on how to connect Google Voice to Elastix. Meant to try it out but haven't as of yet. It's on my short list of things to try soon.

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        • Bill KindleB
          Bill Kindle
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          Last I saw it was near impossible to do anything like that at the moment.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

              I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                I can make calls all day long from Gmail just fine, but it doesn't work with any other service. The moment they bought GrandCentral, it's been in constant flux ever since. The product will be in beta for 10 years, like Gmail was 😉

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                  @ajstringham said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                  I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                  Hoped

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                    I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                    Hoped

                    Let me rephrase: what were people expecting/hoping it would be? A free trunk and DID?

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle @thanksajdotcom
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                      @ajstringham said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @ajstringham said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                      I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                      Hoped

                      Let me rephrase: what were people expecting/hoping it would be? A free trunk and DID?

                      For me it was the hope that I could subscribe to the service and get to use a SIP client of my choice. But I'm perfectly happy with my free google voice number and the service within the US right now. I've used it quite a bit.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Bill Kindle
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                        @Bill-Kindle said:

                        @ajstringham said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @ajstringham said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                        I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                        Hoped

                        Let me rephrase: what were people expecting/hoping it would be? A free trunk and DID?

                        For me it was the hope that I could subscribe to the service and get to use a SIP client of my choice. But I'm perfectly happy with my free google voice number and the service within the US right now. I've used it quite a bit.

                        Ok, I see what you mean. I never even considered that. It's really not what it was meant for.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                          @ajstringham said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @ajstringham said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                          I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                          Hoped

                          Let me rephrase: what were people expecting/hoping it would be? A free trunk and DID?

                          Yes. People were hoping for exactly that. An open SIP trunk. Everyone was hoping for a global, free, unlimited phone service.

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @ajstringham said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @ajstringham said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            I believe that @bill-kindle is correct and that functionality was removed. Google Voice isn't what people had hopes that it would be.

                            I'm not sure what you mean by "what people had hopes it would be".

                            Hoped

                            Let me rephrase: what were people expecting/hoping it would be? A free trunk and DID?

                            Yes. People were hoping for exactly that. An open SIP trunk. Everyone was hoping for a global, free, unlimited phone service.

                            I'm guessing it was IT people and businesses hoping for that because I had never heard of anything like that for an application of Google Voice until this thread.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              That's all I ever heard about it really. A few people mentioning it here and there for things I can't imagine wanting like voicemail or forwarding but that was all stuff anyone technical enough to get Google Voice already had so I never got the excitement.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                That's all I ever heard about it really. A few people mentioning it here and there for things I can't imagine wanting like voicemail or forwarding but that was all stuff anyone technical enough to get Google Voice already had so I never got the excitement.

                                Let's go on the assumption you don't despise voicemail with the passion of a thousand suns. Unlimited mailbox storage, the option to have it send you an email with the voicemail, a transcript and a text with the transcript.

                                Forwarding is not commonly used on it. It's a service of it more than a feature. Someone calls my Google Voice, it rings on my computer and my cellphone. I can also place calls with that as the Outbound CID. Want to text me? Here's my cell. Someone I don't know well or a doctor or a store wants my phone number? Google Voice. I'll still get the calls but I can also setup filtering rules. I can setup VM rules so that this group of people get my personal VM message but the rest get my professional one. Old employer hassling you still about infrastructure questions? Filter that number to go immediately to a voicemail that says "Hey, I don't work for you anymore. Please refer to the notes left behind. I will not return your call." There are so many things you can do with it that are business grade features but for free. Even features with caller announcing. Someone calls your Google Voice. You can set it up so they have to announce who they are. Then, it patches through to you and says "Joe Schmoe" is calling. Would you like to accept or decline? It's not meant for businesses but it's got business grade features.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @ajstringham said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Let's go on the assumption you don't despise voicemail with the passion of a thousand suns. Unlimited mailbox storage, the option to have it send you an email with the voicemail, a transcript and a text with the transcript.

                                  Even if I liked voicemail, that's some boring stuff. I've had that since 2004 or so. Those are normal business as well as home phone services. Sure, not everyone has them, but people who are interested in Google Voice seem like the type who would have already had them. And even if I loved voicemail, no one else seems to use it much anymore anyway. The need for it has gone down so dramatically over the last ten years that the best voicemail service in the world is still pretty trivial.

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @ajstringham said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Let's go on the assumption you don't despise voicemail with the passion of a thousand suns. Unlimited mailbox storage, the option to have it send you an email with the voicemail, a transcript and a text with the transcript.

                                    Even if I liked voicemail, that's some boring stuff. I've had that since 2004 or so. Those are normal business as well as home phone services. Sure, not everyone has them, but people who are interested in Google Voice seem like the type who would have already had them. And even if I loved voicemail, no one else seems to use it much anymore anyway. The need for it has gone down so dramatically over the last ten years that the best voicemail service in the world is still pretty trivial.

                                    A lot of people still use it and those who don't have gone to texting.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom
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                                      Which Google Voice does as well, I should add.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        You're not selling me on the Google Voice thing. It seems like it's a way for my grandmother to enhance her voicemail and texting. 🙂

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @ajstringham said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Let's go on the assumption you don't despise voicemail with the passion of a thousand suns. Unlimited mailbox storage, the option to have it send you an email with the voicemail, a transcript and a text with the transcript.

                                          Even if I liked voicemail, that's some boring stuff. I've had that since 2004 or so. Those are normal business as well as home phone services. Sure, not everyone has them, but people who are interested in Google Voice seem like the type who would have already had them. And even if I loved voicemail, no one else seems to use it much anymore anyway. The need for it has gone down so dramatically over the last ten years that the best voicemail service in the world is still pretty trivial.

                                          A lot of those aren't home phone services. Basic voicemail? Yes. Blocking numbers? Yes. But multiple voicemails, call filtering and blocking from a central panel, etc? Yes, business has had those for some time. In the consumer world those were not around until Google Voice. Or, if you could have multiple voicemails for different, let's call them ring groups, then it would have been a good chunk of change. I have never seen seen that offered on a home user's package. Not even nowadays.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                            @ajstringham said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @ajstringham said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Let's go on the assumption you don't despise voicemail with the passion of a thousand suns. Unlimited mailbox storage, the option to have it send you an email with the voicemail, a transcript and a text with the transcript.

                                            Even if I liked voicemail, that's some boring stuff. I've had that since 2004 or so. Those are normal business as well as home phone services. Sure, not everyone has them, but people who are interested in Google Voice seem like the type who would have already had them. And even if I loved voicemail, no one else seems to use it much anymore anyway. The need for it has gone down so dramatically over the last ten years that the best voicemail service in the world is still pretty trivial.

                                            A lot of those aren't home phone services. Basic voicemail? Yes. Blocking numbers? Yes. But multiple voicemails, call filtering and blocking from a central panel, etc? Yes, business has had those for some time. In the consumer world those were not around until Google Voice. Or, if you could have multiple voicemails for different, let's call them ring groups, then it would have been a good chunk of change. I have never seen seen that offered on a home user's package. Not even nowadays.

                                            Even the most basic services like Vonage have had those for about a decade. And they are a low cost service and an old one.

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