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    I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?

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    • IRJI
      IRJ
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      Hyper-V must be more resource heavy since MS doesn't use it for Azure.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @FATeknollogee
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        @fateknollogee said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

        @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

        I find it funny that Microsoft doesn't use their own virtualization for Azure.

        What are they using?

        They won't say... So likely KVM

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          https://www.cio.com/article/2432470/virtualization/cloud-twist--windows-azure-s-hypervisor-isn-t-hyper-v.html

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
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            Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @IRJ
              last edited by FATeknollogee

              @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

              Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

              C'mon, you're going to quote an article from 2008.....you do realize we are in 2018?

              Some of you guys are just ridiculous!!

              Just yesterday, someone claimed you need drivers installed to run vm's in Hyper-V....where is that stupid face emoji !!

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @bnrstnr
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                @bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                If you don't have an AD domain, or Hyper-V... what's the problem? None of this applies to you.

                I do have an AD domain, and I still choose not to use it. Nobody ever trusts MS anywhere else, and there is nothing but hate towards them, yet everybody on here recommends Hyper-V, it doesn't make sense to me.

                It completely depends on the environment, which determines what you should run. Obviously in yours Hyper-V has no benefits. In others, it may not make any sense to run anything but Hyper-V.

                What you run in an environment shouldn't be emotionally based.

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                  bnrstnr @Obsolesce
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                  @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                  Obviously in yours Hyper-V has no benefits. In others, it may not make any sense to run anything but Hyper-V.

                  @bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                  What specifically makes it more compatible than other hypervisors? I've run windows on several hypervisors and can't tell any difference.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                    @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                    Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                    C'mon, you're going to quote an article from 2008.....you do realize we are in 2018?

                    Some of you guys are just ridiculous!!

                    Just yesterday, someone claimed you need drivers installed to run vm's in Hyper-V....where is that stupid face emoji !!

                    It's on you to prove that has changed! You are ridiculous

                    I showed you proof that they didnt use Hyper-V. show me proof they do!

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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                      @bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                      I do have an AD domain, and I still choose not to use it. Nobody ever trusts MS anywhere else, and there is nothing but hate towards them, yet everybody on here recommends Hyper-V, it doesn't make sense to me.

                      Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.

                      Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @IRJ
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                        @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                        Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                        It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

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                          bnrstnr @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                          Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.
                          Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.

                          Dude, FFS I did ask for specific benefits and all I got was bullshit from @Obsolesce

                          I never said that I don't trust them. I said that everybody on here bitches and moans about them... actually I didn't say that, but I never said that I don't trust them.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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                            @bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                            @jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                            Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.
                            Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.

                            Dude, FFS I did ask for specific benefits and all I got was bullshit from @Obsolesce

                            I never said that I don't trust them. I said that everybody on here bitches and moans about them... actually I didn't say that, but I never said that I don't trust them.

                            I quoted you clearly saying you don't trust them.

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                              bnrstnr @JaredBusch
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                              @jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                              I quoted you clearly saying you don't trust them.

                              Show me. I said "nobody", I guess technically, I would be part of nobody if it was all encompasing. Even though I truly don't have mistrust for them. I was loosely stating that many people don't trust them, and a LOT of people bash them constantly

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @Obsolesce
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                                @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                                It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

                                Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @IRJ
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                                  @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                  @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                  @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                  Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                                  It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

                                  Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?

                                  You can.
                                  https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/azure-stack/

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                    @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                    @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                    @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                    Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                                    It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

                                    Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?

                                    You can.
                                    https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/azure-stack/

                                    Have you tried it?

                                    It seems like it would consume less resources than Hyper-V

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @IRJ
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                                      @irj said

                                      It's on you to prove that has changed! You are ridiculous

                                      I showed you proof that they didnt use Hyper-V. show me proof they do!

                                      It's not my job to correct your lack of knowledge.
                                      If you've been in the IT world (like you claim), Microsoft has said, for many years, Azure runs on Hyper-V.
                                      That doesn't mean it's a version of Hyper-V that you or I can get/download.
                                      It's not any different than Amazon running Xen, doesn't mean you get access to the exact same code!!

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @IRJ
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                        @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                        @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                        @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                        @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                        Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                                        It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

                                        Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?

                                        You can.
                                        https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/azure-stack/

                                        Have you tried it?

                                        It seems like it would consume less resources than Hyper-V

                                        No SMB will have a real use-case for Azure Stack.... at least none that warrants the cost.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @IRJ
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                                          @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                          @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                          @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                          @obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                          @irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                          Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V

                                          It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.

                                          Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?

                                          You can.
                                          https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/azure-stack/

                                          Have you tried it?

                                          It seems like it would consume less resources than Hyper-V

                                          It was just released last fall.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by IRJ

                                            @fateknollogee said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:

                                            @irj said

                                            It's on you to prove that has changed! You are ridiculous

                                            I showed you proof that they didnt use Hyper-V. show me proof they do!

                                            It's not my job to correct your lack of knowledge.
                                            If you've been in the IT world (like you claim), Microsoft has said, for many years, Azure runs on Hyper-V.
                                            That doesn't mean it's a version of Hyper-V that you or I can get/download.
                                            It's not any different than Amazon running Xen, doesn't mean you get access to the exact same code!!

                                            ....lol...

                                            Amazon is going to KVM!!!

                                            It's not my job to correct your lack of knowledge
                                            If you've been in the IT world (like you claim), Amazon has said, since last year, AWS runs on KVM.
                                            That doesn't mean it's a version of KVM that you or I can get/download.
                                            It's not any different than Microsoft running Azure, doesn't mean you get access to the exact same code!!

                                            https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/07/aws_writes_new_kvm_based_hypervisor_to_make_its_cloud_go_faster/

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