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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dyasny
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      @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

      @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

      @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

      NT is what killed it.

      Yeah, Netware on DR-DOS was very.... aged by that point.

      Why DRDOS? NWDOS-7 was great, it could even do multithreading and networking

      LOL...

      https://nwdos.com/

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dyasny
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        @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

        Why DRDOS? NWDOS-7 was great, it could even do multithreading and networking

        NWDos was just a rebranding. Still DR-DOS.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS#Novell_DOS

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          dyasny @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

          @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

          Why DRDOS? NWDOS-7 was great, it could even do multithreading and networking

          NWDos was just a rebranding. Still DR-DOS.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS#Novell_DOS

          oh I know, but Novell added the networking stack in there, and iirc the multitasking was also developed in cooperation with Novell

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dyasny
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            @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

            oh I know, but Novell added the networking stack in there, and iirc the multitasking was also developed in cooperation with Novell

            Well, no one else was going to invest in DR-DOS. Jajaja

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              dyasny @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller LOL

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee
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                For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                  For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                  https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                  How long until these are pushed down stream?

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                    @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                    For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                    https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                    How long until these are pushed down stream?

                    RHV-H/RHV-M are the downstream.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                      @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                      @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                      For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                      https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                      How long until these are pushed down stream?

                      RHV-H/RHV-M are the downstream.

                      Oh

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                        For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                        https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                        How long until these are pushed down stream?

                        RHV-H/RHV-M are the downstream.

                        Of oVirt? Yeah, I think we get the features in oVirt first. So anyone on oVirt likely had that stuff already.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                          last edited by FATeknollogee

                          @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                          For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                          https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                          How long until these are pushed down stream?

                          RHV-H/RHV-M are the downstream.

                          Oh

                          @DustinB3403 Curious, are you an RHV user (aka subscriber)?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                            For folks that might be interested in kicking the tires, here's a nice summary:
                            https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-virtualization-43-quick-start

                            How long until these are pushed down stream?

                            RHV-H/RHV-M are the downstream.

                            Oh

                            @DustinB3403 Curious, are you an RHV user (aka subscriber)?

                            I'm not.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

                                We decided not to use oVirt. But if we were, none of those would make sense. We are using virt-manager and local storage basically everywhere.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

                                  We decided not to use oVirt. But if we were, none of those would make sense. We are using virt-manager and local storage basically everywhere.

                                  Can you say why you decided not to use?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

                                    We decided not to use oVirt. But if we were, none of those would make sense. We are using virt-manager and local storage basically everywhere.

                                    Can you say why you decided not to use?

                                    Yeah, way too much overhead and complexity. It make simple tasks hard and it is totally focused on clustering which rarely has any place in the SMB. Deploying it was a huge headache. Had some neat features, but none that we cared about. We ran into some issues with it that were enough that we questioned the logic of trying to use it.

                                    Tested virt-manager instead and it was flexible, simple, and worked perfectly, instantly. The real thing was that in the end oVirt just offered nothing of particular value, but had a lot of negatives.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

                                      We decided not to use oVirt. But if we were, none of those would make sense. We are using virt-manager and local storage basically everywhere.

                                      Can you say why you decided not to use?

                                      Yeah, way too much overhead and complexity. It make simple tasks hard and it is totally focused on clustering which rarely has any place in the SMB. Deploying it was a huge headache. Had some neat features, but none that we cared about. We ran into some issues with it that were enough that we questioned the logic of trying to use it.

                                      Tested virt-manager instead and it was flexible, simple, and worked perfectly, instantly. The real thing was that in the end oVirt just offered nothing of particular value, but had a lot of negatives.

                                      What was the purpose of looking into it in the first place? What were the goals? What was the problem you were trying to solve?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @Obsolesce said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @scottalanmiller What's the backend storage on your oVirt install, NFS, Gluster, iSCSI?

                                        We decided not to use oVirt. But if we were, none of those would make sense. We are using virt-manager and local storage basically everywhere.

                                        Can you say why you decided not to use?

                                        Yeah, way too much overhead and complexity. It make simple tasks hard and it is totally focused on clustering which rarely has any place in the SMB. Deploying it was a huge headache. Had some neat features, but none that we cared about. We ran into some issues with it that were enough that we questioned the logic of trying to use it.

                                        Tested virt-manager instead and it was flexible, simple, and worked perfectly, instantly. The real thing was that in the end oVirt just offered nothing of particular value, but had a lot of negatives.

                                        What was the purpose of looking into it in the first place? What were the goals? What was the problem you were trying to solve?

                                        Remote management of multiple KVM sites.

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          Yeah, way too much overhead and complexity. It make simple tasks hard and it is totally focused on clustering which rarely has any place in the SMB. Deploying it was a huge headache. Had some neat features, but none that we cared about. We ran into some issues with it that were enough that we questioned the logic of trying to use it.

                                          Tested virt-manager instead and it was flexible, simple, and worked perfectly, instantly. The real thing was that in the end oVirt just offered nothing of particular value, but had a lot of negatives.

                                          I disagree about oVirt having lots of negatives.
                                          You guys were attempting to use the wrong tool for the job.

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          Remote management of multiple KVM sites.

                                          Perfect job for virt-manager :thumbs_up:

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            Yeah, way too much overhead and complexity. It make simple tasks hard and it is totally focused on clustering which rarely has any place in the SMB. Deploying it was a huge headache. Had some neat features, but none that we cared about. We ran into some issues with it that were enough that we questioned the logic of trying to use it.

                                            Tested virt-manager instead and it was flexible, simple, and worked perfectly, instantly. The real thing was that in the end oVirt just offered nothing of particular value, but had a lot of negatives.

                                            I disagree about oVirt having lots of negatives.
                                            You guys were attempting to use the wrong tool for the job.

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            Remote management of multiple KVM sites.

                                            Perfect job for virt-manager :thumbs_up:

                                            Its the wrong tool for the job because of its negatives 😉

                                            Had it not had those negatives it would have been the better tool.

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