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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

      Which of the two NAS are you looking at that you cannot delete?

      Offsite

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

          What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

          Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bbigford
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            @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

            What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

            Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

            And RSYNC is syncing as that user, not as root?

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

              @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

              @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

              What method are you using to make the offsite copy? Is it just an RSYNC?

              Yes. Onsite is fine, still a lot of storage available. Offsite is 95% full.

              And RSYNC is syncing as that user, not as root?

              Correct

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford
                last edited by bbigford

                Deleted offsite backups shared directory and now seeding; will take 12 hours. Hope there is no environmental hazard during that time with onsite.

                Not sure what I could have done better in this case.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Worth a shot anyway.

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                    Worth a shot anyway.

                    It's seeing in a healthy state after monitoring constantly. I just don't understand what I could have done better to remove a backup chain and just free up space. I initially tried to delete the link and just re-establish it with the same name; couldn't do that though since it looks for the same name and -if it exists- it creates a new folder.

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                    • NashBrydgesN
                      NashBrydges
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                      Could someone have logged in as administrator on the Offsite NAS and (accidentally) changed permissions on the "User" account?

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                      • NashBrydgesN
                        NashBrydges
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                        If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @NashBrydges
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                          @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                          If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                          Using rsync is pretty good at preserving permissions unless one forget to include option -a.

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @bbigford
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                            @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                            Worth a shot anyway.

                            It's seeing in a healthy state after monitoring constantly. I just don't understand what I could have done better to remove a backup chain and just free up space. I initially tried to delete the link and just re-establish it with the same name; couldn't do that though since it looks for the same name and -if it exists- it creates a new folder.

                            Do you have rsync set to delete files that have been removed from the source? --delete

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                            • bbigfordB
                              bbigford @NashBrydges
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                              @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                              Could someone have logged in as administrator on the Offsite NAS and (accidentally) changed permissions on the "User" account?

                              No, I'm the only one who works with them at this time.

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                              • bbigfordB
                                bbigford @NashBrydges
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                                @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                Air gap as in if one building was lost, the other is fine. I should have been more clear. Not two separate networks using wireless point to point.

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                                • bbigfordB
                                  bbigford @NashBrydges
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                                  @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                  If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                  I'll probably go that route for long term. I love rsync but I may keep it only for specific cases.

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                    @nashbrydges said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                    If you're using rsync to sync the 2 NASs then there's no air gap. The systems are obviously networked together. What about using Backup Copy from Veeam instead of rsync. Just wondering is rsync may be the cause here.

                                    Using rsync is pretty good at preserving permissions unless one forget to include option -a.

                                    I used the GUI on this one.

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato
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                                      As an aside question, do you have it that it recycles the storage after certain time with Synology to Synology backuP?

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford @dbeato
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                                        @dbeato said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                        As an aside question, do you have it that it recycles the storage after certain time with Synology to Synology backuP?

                                        What do you mean recycles? It's not doing an offsite move-delete if that's what you mean, it's copying it in case either building is lost. Maybe I don't understand the question.

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                                        • dbeatoD
                                          dbeato @bbigford
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                                          @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                          @dbeato said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                          As an aside question, do you have it that it recycles the storage after certain time with Synology to Synology backuP?

                                          What do you mean recycles? It's not doing an offsite move-delete if that's what you mean, it's copying it in case either building is lost. Maybe I don't understand the question.

                                          So when I setup the backup between Synology devices, I make sure that after a certain time/age the backup device deletes the older snapshots/backups.

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                                          • bbigfordB
                                            bbigford @dbeato
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                                            @dbeato said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                            @bbigford said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                            @dbeato said in Synology NAS - Can't delete:

                                            As an aside question, do you have it that it recycles the storage after certain time with Synology to Synology backuP?

                                            What do you mean recycles? It's not doing an offsite move-delete if that's what you mean, it's copying it in case either building is lost. Maybe I don't understand the question.

                                            So when I setup the backup between Synology devices, I make sure that after a certain time/age the backup device deletes the older snapshots/backups.

                                            Ah, got it. What are you using for backup software that you'd rather your backup software not delete it? Also, are you using Synology CLI for that? I don't know that I've noticed that option in the GUI as part of the task creation.

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