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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dave_c
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      @dave_c said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

      Mainstream PHP programmers used to have many bad habits.

      That won't affect the learner, though. Learn from a good source, and PHP won't be in the way at all. PHP itself doesn't encourage bad habits, that was just a culture of people using it as non-programmers.

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        dave_c @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller
        Oh, yes: Learn from a good source.
        PHP "was" badly designed. PHP 7 has more sanity. Quoting someone on the internet: "Languages like Python or Ruby were designed, PHP just happened"

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @dave_c
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          @dave_c said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

          @scottalanmiller
          Oh, yes: Learn from a good source.
          PHP "was" badly designed. PHP 7 has more sanity. Quoting someone on the internet: "Languages like Python or Ruby were designed, PHP just happened"

          PHP is reminds me a lot of Powershell scripting. I'm running into so many similarities.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            I do plan on learning Python as well, but PHP is easier for me to learn programming.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @Obsolesce
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              @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

              @dave_c said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

              @scottalanmiller
              Oh, yes: Learn from a good source.
              PHP "was" badly designed. PHP 7 has more sanity. Quoting someone on the internet: "Languages like Python or Ruby were designed, PHP just happened"

              PHP is reminds me a lot of Powershell scripting. I'm running into so many similarities.

              No kidding. It has been a while since I've done anything in PHP and I had an idea to tinker with tonight... I keep shooting myself in the foot trying to use PowerShell syntax for stuff.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                @dave_c said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                @scottalanmiller
                Oh, yes: Learn from a good source.
                PHP "was" badly designed. PHP 7 has more sanity. Quoting someone on the internet: "Languages like Python or Ruby were designed, PHP just happened"

                PHP is reminds me a lot of Powershell scripting. I'm running into so many similarities.

                Oh gosh I hope not.

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                  flaxking @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                  I keep shooting myself in the foot trying to use PowerShell syntax for stuff.

                  I feel like that problem just gets worse before it gets better (does it ever get better?)

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                    @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                    @dave_c said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                    @scottalanmiller
                    Oh, yes: Learn from a good source.
                    PHP "was" badly designed. PHP 7 has more sanity. Quoting someone on the internet: "Languages like Python or Ruby were designed, PHP just happened"

                    PHP is reminds me a lot of Powershell scripting. I'm running into so many similarities.

                    Oh gosh I hope not.

                    I'm not talking about the cmdlets and stuff. I mean the scripting parts... programming logic, loops, arrays and such... those areas.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      You're probably just seeing the underlying paradigm of procedural programming.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                        You're probably just seeing the underlying paradigm of procedural programming.

                        Yeah hats probably the case.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          https://medium.freecodecamp.org/every-time-you-build-a-to-do-list-app-a-puppy-dies-505b54637a5d

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                            https://medium.freecodecamp.org/every-time-you-build-a-to-do-list-app-a-puppy-dies-505b54637a5d

                            My first project that I'm almost finished with is a nutrition calculator for my protein bar recipe.

                            That basically covers the first two chapters and a little into 3.

                            Though, there's about 65 form fields to handle, so it's quite big without me knowing how to handle all those fields, especially due to them initially being generated automatically by like 4 lines of PHP.

                            I'll link it after it's finished, it's quite nice for it's purpose.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Cool

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by Obsolesce

                                @scottalanmiller said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                                Cool

                                I'm pretty close to being done with my first project to drive home chapters 1 and 2 of the book (plus what I learned on SoloLearn).

                                Edit: It takes advantage of HTML5 and PHP7+ only features 🙂

                                Here's the results so far:

                                First Screenshot:
                                This is the default page, and all of this is automatically generated and filled in with just a few lines of PHP, and allows you to adjust as needed before submitting how much one bar weighs.
                                0_1521777918836_1a32ad09-6e8c-4607-ab94-64bc999ea572-image.png

                                Second Screenshot:
                                This shows the results of everything from the first screenshot.
                                0_1521778015722_6b1eb8c1-e107-4714-896e-f4990f62f279-image.png

                                I know I need to work on formatting and prettyness a bit, but my main goal was first functionality.

                                I also have error handling, and defaulting to ZERO:
                                0_1521778124030_82deadb9-3fa6-4640-b366-c82ccfbdb8a4-image.png

                                As well as injection prevention, null setting before any handling, and strict checking:
                                0_1521778245010_da8aa7b1-7d55-45d0-a3cd-f0f6e394682d-image.png

                                A snippet of just the $grams variable (but applies to everything):
                                0_1521778343606_419b4e5a-e65b-401b-97aa-b80a3aaa397a-image.png
                                (that's an old comment to myself that I haven't removed yet)

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  For the rest of the chapters, I'll be doing other projects (two of which I started already and got as far as I could with the knowledge of chapters 1 and 2 (some of 3)) and will do those as I go through the book... also, I will make this Protein Bar Nutrition Calculator way more efficient on the back end as I learn more.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                                    @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                                    Cool

                                    I'm pretty close to being done with my first project to drive home chapters 1 and 2 of the book (plus what I learned on SoloLearn).

                                    Here's the results so far:

                                    First Screenshot:
                                    This is the default page, and all of this is automatically generated and filled in with just a few lines of PHP, and allows you to adjust as needed before submitting how much one bar weighs.
                                    0_1521777918836_1a32ad09-6e8c-4607-ab94-64bc999ea572-image.png

                                    Second Screenshot:
                                    This shows the results of everything from the first screenshot.
                                    0_1521778015722_6b1eb8c1-e107-4714-896e-f4990f62f279-image.png

                                    I know I need to work on formatting and prettyness a bit, but my main goal was first functionality.

                                    I also have error handling, and defaulting to ZERO:
                                    0_1521778124030_82deadb9-3fa6-4640-b366-c82ccfbdb8a4-image.png

                                    As well as injection prevention, null setting before any handling, and strict checking:
                                    0_1521778245010_da8aa7b1-7d55-45d0-a3cd-f0f6e394682d-image.png

                                    A snippet of just the $grams variable (but applies to everything):
                                    0_1521778343606_419b4e5a-e65b-401b-97aa-b80a3aaa397a-image.png
                                    (that's an old comment to myself that I haven't removed yet)

                                    I find more comments to be better. because I will code something and after testing and deployemnt, I won't touhc it for 4 years and without comments I have no fucking clue what I was thinking when I did something a certain way.

                                    I mean I can read the code and see what I did and what it does, but that says nothing for why i did something.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch oh, that comment was a to-do comment, that I've finished doing but never deleted that reminder.

                                      But yeah I have comments everywhere, just not in the screenshots.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
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                                        I'd like to substitute Honey for something else more healthy... yeah it's better than added sugar, but still... it's "sugar".

                                        I could probably make up for that weight with 100g more of other ingredients, and more water. But it wouldn't be as sweet. it's such a tasty recipe as-is though.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @Obsolesce
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                                          @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                                          I'd like to substitute Honey for something else more healthy... yeah it's better than added sugar, but still... it's "sugar".

                                          I could probably make up for that weight with 100g more of other ingredients, and more water. But it wouldn't be as sweet. it's such a tasty recipe as-is though.

                                          Nobody wants to eat healthy food that tastes like 💩 .

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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                                            @tim_g said in Dipping Toes Into Programming:

                                            I'd like to substitute Honey for something else more healthy... yeah it's better than added sugar, but still... it's "sugar".

                                            I could probably make up for that weight with 100g more of other ingredients, and more water. But it wouldn't be as sweet. it's such a tasty recipe as-is though.

                                            Honey is a whole different thing than processed sugar. Yes, you can't go crazy with it, but it's so much better than sugar.

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