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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Net Runner
      last edited by

      @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

      Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

      Ubiquiti gear.
      Way less expensive, life of the unit free updates, as good or often better performance at HUGE price savings.
      Now if you need specialized gear, that's another story, but normal firewalls/routers, switches and APs - you're much better off.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @Net Runner
        last edited by

        @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

        Literally any other brand would be a better choice, but Ubiquiti is the way to go.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Net Runner
          last edited by

          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

          "Standard" in the way that doesn't mean anything good. They are the "standard" for VARs to push on the SMB market.

          http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/no-one-ever-got-fired-for-buying/

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Net Runner
            last edited by

            @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

            Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

            Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

              Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

              Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

              Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

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              • popesterP
                popester @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @popester
                  last edited by

                  @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                  Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                  Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                  Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                  Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                  You should not look at the $45 model, it's not enough for business use. The ERL is the starter unit for business and is often $95, but can be found for closer to $80.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @popester
                    last edited by

                    @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                    Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                    Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                    Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                    Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                    I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                      Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                      Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                      Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                      Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                      I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                      The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr @popester
                        last edited by thwr

                        @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        sco starts to look silly.

                        Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious l

                        EdgeRouter X with or without SFP

                        If you need something faster, EdgeRouter 4/6. Need more? EdgeRouter Infinity

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                          Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                          Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                          Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                          Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                          I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                          The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                          I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @thwr
                            last edited by

                            @thwr said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                            Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                            Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                            Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                            Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                            I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                            The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                            I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

                            Lucky man!

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                              Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                              Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                              Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                              Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                              I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                              The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                              I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                  Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                  Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                  Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                  Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                  I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                  The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                  I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                  If you keep posting pics, your wife might find out....

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                                    Alex Sage @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    I am currently making out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                    Does she put out?

                                    How many Mps? =P

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/02/that-mega-vulnerability-cisco-dropped-is-now-under-exploit/

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/02/that-mega-vulnerability-cisco-dropped-is-now-under-exploit/

                                        They can own all the ASAs!

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