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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech @black3dynamite
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      @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

      @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

      Odd to say the least. Their system requirements are low, we even purchased a new PC (for one of the workstations) to see if that would help.

      The new PC is a I5-7400 CPU 2.4 Ghz with 8 GB Ram so it is more than sufficient.

      Requirements:
      Processor Intel® Core i7, i5, i3 Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo® 2.53 GHz
      RAM 6 GB (64-bit) | 4 GB (32-bit) 2 GB
      Hard Disk 160 GB available disk space 80 GB available disk space
      Optical Drive DVD RW DVD ROM
      Network Adapter Ethernet 100/1000 Ethernet 100/1000
      Monitor 19 LCD/LED (or larger) 17 LCD/LED
      Video Adapter 32-bit, 1024 x 768
      or higher resolution capable
      16-bit, 800 x 600
      or higher resolution capable
      Sound Standard sound card Standard sound card
      USB 6 available USB 2.0 Ports 4 available USB 2.0 Ports
      Operating Systems (32/64-bit) Windows® 10 Professional
      Windows® 8.1 Professional
      Windows® 7 Professional

      You can try setting up a Windows 10, 8.1 and 7 VM on the host and see if the performance is still slow.

      I can try that, but how would that be different than running it on the other VM (Server 2016) that is the DC?

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @CCWTech
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        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

        @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

        Odd to say the least. Their system requirements are low, we even purchased a new PC (for one of the workstations) to see if that would help.

        The new PC is a I5-7400 CPU 2.4 Ghz with 8 GB Ram so it is more than sufficient.

        Requirements:
        Processor Intel® Core i7, i5, i3 Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo® 2.53 GHz
        RAM 6 GB (64-bit) | 4 GB (32-bit) 2 GB
        Hard Disk 160 GB available disk space 80 GB available disk space
        Optical Drive DVD RW DVD ROM
        Network Adapter Ethernet 100/1000 Ethernet 100/1000
        Monitor 19 LCD/LED (or larger) 17 LCD/LED
        Video Adapter 32-bit, 1024 x 768
        or higher resolution capable
        16-bit, 800 x 600
        or higher resolution capable
        Sound Standard sound card Standard sound card
        USB 6 available USB 2.0 Ports 4 available USB 2.0 Ports
        Operating Systems (32/64-bit) Windows® 10 Professional
        Windows® 8.1 Professional
        Windows® 7 Professional

        You can try setting up a Windows 10, 8.1 and 7 VM on the host and see if the performance is still slow.

        I can try that, but how would that be different than running it on the other VM (Server 2016) that is the DC?

        Well if its still slow when trying to access the application from the DC too then never mind my previous response. Just wondering if its a hardware or driver issue on those workstations.

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        • CCWTechC
          CCWTech
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          That's the $1,000,000 question...

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            It would not hurt to set up a Windows workstation as a VM and do a test to make sure that you’re not having some kind of problem with that Windows server vm

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            • CCWTechC
              CCWTech @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

              It would not hurt to set up a Windows workstation as a VM and do a test to make sure that you’re not having some kind of problem with that Windows server vm

              I'm willing to try almost anything right now. I just was wondering what that would show... Booting up a VM shortly.

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              • CCWTechC
                CCWTech @Dashrender
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                @dashrender I have set up another VM (In this case Windows 7 Pro 64 bit with SP1)

                It's slow on this machine as well.

                Anything outside of the VM where this app runs is slow (virtual or physical machines).

                I haven't enabled SMB 1, does that need to be done on the VM and Physical machine?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Ideally you'd want to use the very latest SMB protocol. But that doesn't appear to be the issue regardless.

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                  • CCWTechC
                    CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                    Ideally you'd want to use the very latest SMB protocol. But that doesn't appear to be the issue regardless.

                    Ok, it had been suggested here.

                    I'm just looking for anything else to try at this point.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                        Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

                        It was still slow via IP too.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                          Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

                          It was still slow via IP too.

                          Oh, so much for that theory.

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite
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                            I forgot Windows 2016 includes Windows Defender now. Try accessing the application with Windows Defender turned off on the server.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @CCWTech
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                              @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              I haven't enabled SMB 1, does that need to be done on the VM and Physical machine?

                              While this shouldn't be the case, why not try it. Windows 10 1709 does have SMB v1 disabled by default, so you'd have to do both Server 2016 and Win 10 1709. I'm not sure if a WIndows Update turns it off on any other Windows desktop or server version.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Since the host is a a full install of Windows Server 2016 - make a copy of the data folder and map it to a workstation and see what happens as another test.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @CCWTech
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                                  @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                  Their network switch is a Netgear GS748Tv5 and I upgraded the FW to the latest version.

                                  Can you show us the config of the switch for the ports the server is plugged into, as well as one of the PCs?

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                                  • Mike DavisM
                                    Mike Davis @i3
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                                    @i3 said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                    @ccwtech , what kind of file transfer speeds are you seeing?

                                    I was wondering this as well. That will rule out the application or point to another problem.

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                                    • CCWTechC
                                      CCWTech @CCWTech
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                                      @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                      Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                      20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite @CCWTech
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                                        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                        Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                        20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                        Is that with IP or DNS?

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                                        • CCWTechC
                                          CCWTech @black3dynamite
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                                          @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                          20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                          Is that with IP or DNS?

                                          DNS I will try via IP

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            The implementation of VMQ was rolled out so badly.

                                            I ranted on it in a thread more than a year ago.
                                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                            You can disable it on the NICs quite easily.

                                            Get-NetAdapterVmq | Disable-NetAdapterVmq
                                            

                                            If you haven't done this, I'm going to suggest this again. Run it on the Hyper-V host. I've seen this clear up issues on both Intel and Broadcom chips.

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