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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

      I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

      And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

      Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

      then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

      No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

      My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

      This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

      0_1513561764794_Screenshot_20171217-174723.png

      Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        Why did your fees NOT go up? The customer clearly is getting more in 2012 than they were in 2000.

        Kind of difficult when everyone else's fees were going down.

        in your same area?

        Brighthouse, Time Warner, Charter, Comcast, Spectrum - whatever you want to call them on a given day.

        In the time this year since I left that business Spectrum has doubled everyone's speeds here for free to 100mb, and they have cut the pricing down to $50 or less, and made similar offers to businesses.

        They are in the process of what you would call a limited asset purchase now, where we could have been bought last year.

        I could tell all kinds of tales of yore about the WISP and DSL. Early 2000's was the most fun because you were actually bringing 10 and 15mb service out to people who only had dial up options. It really hasn't been fun or profitable for a while. I don't exactly consider any ISP I have been in to be a "greedy big company".

        I am happy to have moved on and have found mid-market enterprise voice to be a pretty good market. I plan on sticking to this for a long time.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @bigbear
          last edited by Obsolesce

          @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          In the time this year since I left that business Spectrum has doubled everyone's speeds here for free to 100mb, and they have cut the pricing down to $50 or less, and made similar offers to businesses.

          If they keep that up, they'll be comparable to the EU within a decade or two!

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

            I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

            And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

            On all of these unlimited deals the actual result is that, during peak hours, they prioritize spectrum access differently. I have found with unlimited you can hit over 30GB and still be getting top speeds most of the day.

            Its not a hard cap and throttle like the MVNO and smaller guys do. Sprint started with this type of unlimited deal and ATT/Verizon seems to have followed suit. I can not speak directly to TMo on that though.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Obsolesce
              last edited by Dashrender

              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

              I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

              And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

              Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

              then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

              No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

              My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

              This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

              Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

              not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

              In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                could

                But doesn't.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  They are taking on cable tv next.

                  https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/940961711313469440?s=09

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear @Dashrender
                    last edited by bigbear

                    @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                    I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                    I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                    And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                    Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                    then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                    No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                    My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                    This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                    Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                    not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                    In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                    It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @bigbear
                      last edited by

                      @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                      I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                      And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                      Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                      then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                      No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                      My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                      This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                      Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                      not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                      In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                      It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                      And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                      We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                        I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                        And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                        Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                        then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                        No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                        My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                        This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                        Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                        not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                        In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                        It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                        And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                        We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                        Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                        In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                        So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                        Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                        ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                        AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                        I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                        Me $40 for 6GB
                        Wife $35 for 6gb
                        Son $30 for 6GB
                        Daughter $25 for 6GB
                        Daughter $20 for 6GB
                        Son $15 for 6gB

                        I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @bigbear
                          last edited by

                          @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                          I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                          And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                          Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                          then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                          No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                          My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                          This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                          Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                          not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                          In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                          It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                          And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                          We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                          Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                          In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                          So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                          Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                          ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                          AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                          I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                          Me $40 for 6GB
                          Wife $35 for 6gb
                          Son $30 for 6GB
                          Daughter $25 for 6GB
                          Daughter $20 for 6GB
                          Son $15 for 6gB

                          I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

                          you get roll over, even on prepaid?

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                            I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                            And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                            Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                            then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                            No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                            My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                            This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                            Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                            not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                            In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                            It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                            And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                            We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                            Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                            In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                            So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                            Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                            ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                            AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                            I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                            Me $40 for 6GB
                            Wife $35 for 6gb
                            Son $30 for 6GB
                            Daughter $25 for 6GB
                            Daughter $20 for 6GB
                            Son $15 for 6gB

                            I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

                            you get roll over, even on prepaid?

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                            I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                            And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                            Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                            then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                            No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                            My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                            This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                            Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                            not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                            In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                            It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                            And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                            We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                            Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                            In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                            So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                            Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                            ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                            AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                            I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                            Me $40 for 6GB
                            Wife $35 for 6gb
                            Son $30 for 6GB
                            Daughter $25 for 6GB
                            Daughter $20 for 6GB
                            Son $15 for 6gB

                            I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

                            you get roll over, even on prepaid?

                            Yup you get to carry over up to a full 6gb per line...

                            It’s a better deal than att retail service, and I notice the taxes and fees are never more than $3 or so per line.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @bigbear
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                              @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                              I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                              And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                              Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                              then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                              No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                              My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                              This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                              Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                              not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                              In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                              It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                              And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                              We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                              Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                              In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                              So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                              Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                              ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                              AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                              I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                              Me $40 for 6GB
                              Wife $35 for 6gb
                              Son $30 for 6GB
                              Daughter $25 for 6GB
                              Daughter $20 for 6GB
                              Son $15 for 6gB

                              I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

                              Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
                              each gets 6 GB, currently we each use around 3 GB, recent maxes have been close to 4 GB. Great way to save $40/m

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @Dashrender
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                                @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.

                                I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.

                                And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.

                                Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.

                                then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.

                                No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.

                                My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.

                                This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.

                                Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.

                                not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.

                                In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.

                                It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now

                                And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.

                                We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.

                                Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.

                                In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.

                                So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options

                                Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB

                                ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text

                                AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.

                                I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...

                                Me $40 for 6GB
                                Wife $35 for 6gb
                                Son $30 for 6GB
                                Daughter $25 for 6GB
                                Daughter $20 for 6GB
                                Son $15 for 6gB

                                I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.

                                Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
                                each gets 6 GB, currently we each use around 3 GB, recent maxes have been close to 4 GB. Great way to save $40/m

                                Would very much like to see Google Fi do something here, not sure that the data prices are avail.

                                Trying to find where someone dropped a line about google Fi towers in google Fiber cities...

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                  Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                  Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
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                                    Looks like you can get Netflix for free if you use T-Mobile, even if you're an existing customer.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                                      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                      Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                      Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                      Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                      Sure, if I don't want to use my phones. I actually tried that this summer for my Europe trip.. I signed up for service (new phone numbers - @JaredBusch ) and could only get service in 1 place I visit weekly in my home city.

                                      TMo was useless in most of my home city and home home.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                        Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                        Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                        Sure, if I don't want to use my phones. I actually tried that this summer for my Europe trip.. I signed up for service (new phone numbers - @JaredBusch ) and could only get service in 1 place I visit weekly in my home city.

                                        TMo was useless in most of my home city and home home.

                                        ouch, didn't know that!

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                                        • bigbearB
                                          bigbear @Obsolesce
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                                          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                          Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                          Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                          Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                          Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @bigbear
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                                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                            Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                            Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                            Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                            Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                                            Before taxes.

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