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    Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition

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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco
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      So nobody here realizes that the facial recognition got totally pwned by this guy?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Looks like FaceID isn't nearly as secure as they claimed. Those hackers are looking more and more likely to have really hacked it as casual hacking of the devices starts to be known.

        https://www.wired.com/story/10-year-old-face-id-unlocks-mothers-iphone-x/

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

          Looks like FaceID isn't nearly as secure as they claimed. Those hackers are looking more and more likely to have really hacked it as casual hacking of the devices starts to be known.

          https://www.wired.com/story/10-year-old-face-id-unlocks-mothers-iphone-x/

          Youtube Video

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
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            0_1510853982216_faceid.png

            Right, so now all people who steal phones have to do is find someone under the age of 13 who looks similar to you and they're in......

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              marcinozga
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              And by the time they find someone that looks like you, you can track them and lock the phone via iCloud....

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                So basically, Face ID is so convenient that they can't live without it, so they won't just go to a PIN, instead they will delete all SMS/texting type messages. Really??

                There's a JB /sigh FFS moment for ya.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                    A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                    Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                      A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                      Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

                      I only skimmed the article, but it was claimed as a proof of concept.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                        A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                        Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

                        I only skimmed the article, but it was claimed as a proof of concept.

                        The claim that people have made is that Apple tested this and it can't be done. I'm not sure why Apple testing that would mean it can't be done, but that's the basis for the claims against the tech. That and a mask doesn't address the iris scanning, but who knows if they really do that or just claim it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                          A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                          Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

                          I only skimmed the article, but it was claimed as a proof of concept.

                          The claim that people have made is that Apple tested this and it can't be done. I'm not sure why Apple testing that would mean it can't be done, but that's the basis for the claims against the tech. That and a mask doesn't address the iris scanning, but who knows if they really do that or just claim it.

                          The article specifically said they had printed an ultra-hd mask, and use it to login to the phone. I'm assuming this includes the eyes and everything.

                          It was stated that it was really impractical based on the cost of the printer used to get that mask. And as such was a proof of concept that the tech was "easily broken".

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                            A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                            Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

                            I only skimmed the article, but it was claimed as a proof of concept.

                            The claim that people have made is that Apple tested this and it can't be done. I'm not sure why Apple testing that would mean it can't be done, but that's the basis for the claims against the tech. That and a mask doesn't address the iris scanning, but who knows if they really do that or just claim it.

                            The article specifically said they had printed an ultra-hd mask, and use it to login to the phone. I'm assuming this includes the eyes and everything.

                            It was stated that it was really impractical based on the cost of the printer used to get that mask. And as such was a proof of concept that the tech was "easily broken".

                            Can you print irises?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                              It was stated that it was really impractical based on the cost of the printer used to get that mask. And as such was a proof of concept that the tech was "easily broken".

                              Any idea on the price?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @marcinozga
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                                @marcinozga said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                And by the time they find someone that looks like you, you can track them and lock the phone via iCloud....

                                Assuming people have that set up. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know who actually know how to do that.

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                                  marcinozga @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                  @marcinozga said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                  And by the time they find someone that looks like you, you can track them and lock the phone via iCloud....

                                  Assuming people have that set up. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know who actually know how to do that.

                                  You do that during initial phone setup, I think. I haven't set up new phone in almost 2 years so my memory is flaky here. Using it after fact, now that might be challenging.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                    It was stated that it was really impractical based on the cost of the printer used to get that mask. And as such was a proof of concept that the tech was "easily broken".

                                    Any idea on the price?

                                    No the article didnt go into the details.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                      A S. Korea security firm already broke it as well with an ultra-HD 3d printer and made a mask of the person who's face had locked the phone.

                                      Did they provide sufficient documentation? Because a Vietnam firm had claimed that earlier but no one believed them.

                                      I only skimmed the article, but it was claimed as a proof of concept.

                                      The claim that people have made is that Apple tested this and it can't be done. I'm not sure why Apple testing that would mean it can't be done, but that's the basis for the claims against the tech. That and a mask doesn't address the iris scanning, but who knows if they really do that or just claim it.

                                      Apple testing? I believe that without question!!! (said the crapple fanboi sheeple)

                                      Anybody have some REAL test results, preferably the kind that don't involve turtleneck wearing douches and their high dollar product announcements?

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @marcinozga
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                                        @marcinozga said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                        @marcinozga said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                        And by the time they find someone that looks like you, you can track them and lock the phone via iCloud....

                                        Assuming people have that set up. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know who actually know how to do that.

                                        You do that during initial phone setup, I think. I haven't set up new phone in almost 2 years so my memory is flaky here. Using it after fact, now that might be challenging.

                                        ya that's what I meant. They may set it up, but I meant I don't know very many people that would be able to leverage it if they needed to.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @stacksofplates
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                                          @stacksofplates said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                          @marcinozga said in Hackers Claim to Have Broken Apple's Facial Recognition:

                                          And by the time they find someone that looks like you, you can track them and lock the phone via iCloud....

                                          Assuming people have that set up. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know who actually know how to do that.

                                          I think it's less about knowing how vs knowing that the feature exists at all.

                                          Sure you go through setup, check the box and then never think about it again. IF they ever logged into their iCloud account, there is a huge button - locate your phone - that makes it pretty impossible to miss if you've logged in there and looked around.

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                                          • caramelC
                                            caramel
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                                            I just like apples, what can I say?

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