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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

      The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

      This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

      Correct - it is not related to the first question - but when pressed - I did state it as much.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

        But if the goal is to eliminate all Windows CALs, you could remove the Windows servers entirely. Just identify the goal level services (rather than services that only work to support those goals, those would be proximate services) and make sure that your non-Windows devices can supply those.

        The goal was never to eliminate Windows CALs, but to buy as few as possible.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

          @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

          But if the goal is to eliminate all Windows CALs, you could remove the Windows servers entirely. Just identify the goal level services (rather than services that only work to support those goals, those would be proximate services) and make sure that your non-Windows devices can supply those.

          The goal was never to eliminate Windows CALs, but to buy as few as possible.

          Those are kind of the same thing. How few can you buy? Zero. Would that mean eliminating Windows? Yes.

          See how they overlap?

          In the thought experiment, there were no Windows services needed for anything, so the number needed was zero.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            If the goal was to eliminate Windows CALs altogether, there would be no need for questions, because the answer would simply be, eliminate all Window Servers.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

              @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

              The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

              This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

              Correct - it is not related to the first question - but when pressed - I did state it as much.

              Right, but it led us some pretty weird places since the original question was about something unneeded without Windows servers. So solving one solved the other.

              It's like "How many buckets do I need to carry water once we've run out of water."

              Um... zero?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                If the goal was to eliminate Windows CALs altogether, there would be no need for questions, because the answer would simply be, eliminate all Window Servers.

                Which was the answer I gave.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                  The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                  This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                  Correct - it is not related to the first question - but when pressed - I did state it as much.

                  Right, but it led us some pretty weird places since the original question was about something unneeded without Windows servers. So solving one solved the other.

                  It's like "How many buckets do I need to carry water once we've run out of water."

                  Um... zero?

                  You read too much into the server bit - I didn't say unneeded, I said untouched by the non windows devices - two totally different things.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                    @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                    @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                    The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                    This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                    Correct - it is not related to the first question - but when pressed - I did state it as much.

                    Right, but it led us some pretty weird places since the original question was about something unneeded without Windows servers. So solving one solved the other.

                    It's like "How many buckets do I need to carry water once we've run out of water."

                    Um... zero?

                    You read too much into the server bit - I didn't say unneeded, I said untouched by the non windows devices - two totally different things.

                    But the base question was still how to provide a service that only exists for Windows AD. That that was the core question, anything that didn't explain why it was needed would lead to "just don't have it."

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                      The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                      This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                      Correct - it is not related to the first question - but when pressed - I did state it as much.

                      Right, but it led us some pretty weird places since the original question was about something unneeded without Windows servers. So solving one solved the other.

                      It's like "How many buckets do I need to carry water once we've run out of water."

                      Um... zero?

                      You read too much into the server bit - I didn't say unneeded, I said untouched by the non windows devices - two totally different things.

                      Not reading in, the question was about that and nothing else. Without needing a Windows AD Server, there was no need for the question.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          a derailed thread.. you're welcome.

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                            krisleslie @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender thank God I’m already in a bar! Scott you want a flaming dr. Pepper with me bro?!?

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                              The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                              This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                              you know i have noticed you and dash really communicate differently. not good or bad, just different. then you both have trouble understanding the other. from the many threads i have read with you two, that is the common theme i have seen.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                @jmoore said in Home Network Setup:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                                This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                                you know i have noticed you and dash really communicate differently. not good or bad, just different. then you both have trouble understanding the other. from the many threads i have read with you two, that is the common theme i have seen.

                                I'd assume part of it is that I am highly literal. That tends to be a root of many communications issues for me in general.

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                  @jmoore said in Home Network Setup:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                  The whole crux of my ask was - the desire to buy as few Windows Server CALs as possible.

                                  This is unrelated to the question asked, though.

                                  you know i have noticed you and dash really communicate differently. not good or bad, just different. then you both have trouble understanding the other. from the many threads i have read with you two, that is the common theme i have seen.

                                  I'd assume part of it is that I am highly literal. That tends to be a root of many communications issues for me in general.

                                  yeah i think your right you are literal. i had to adjust my communication with you. that was my fault though, i am used to having to be so unliteral with my users because i would lose them that i got into that bad habit lol. i know for me, i was not explaining my thoughts in a well laid out way and that made me harder to understand and threw you off. did i do better that time?

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