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Microsoft Bringing Enterprise Features to Chromium Edge Browser Preview
Microsoft on Tuesday outlined what's to come with its Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser, particularly for business and enterprise users.
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Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.
If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.
We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders
Nope. Thank goodness.
My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:
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Microsoft warns 10,000 customers they’re targeted by nation-sponsored hackers
Hacking remains a tool of choice for influencing elections, company warns.
Microsoft said on Wednesday that it has notified almost 10,000 customers in the past year that they’re being targeted by nation-sponsored hackers. -
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Microsoft warns 10,000 customers they’re targeted by nation-sponsored hackers
Hacking remains a tool of choice for influencing elections, company warns.
Microsoft said on Wednesday that it has notified almost 10,000 customers in the past year that they’re being targeted by nation-sponsored hackers.Ugh the world hasn't even calmed dow yet from the last election
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Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders
Nope. Thank goodness.
My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:
Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.
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@travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders
Nope. Thank goodness.
My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:
Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.
OH no, not Access AND Excel!
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@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders
Nope. Thank goodness.
My brother's company makes him use a HUGE HUGE spreadsheet for part of their Inventory processing so Management. Heck, put it in a stupid Access DB for crying out loud. But, but, but, Excel can give Management the pretty pie chart they want.. :pensive_face:
Excel can still make them pretty pie charts from any database, and can natively access Access. Not that I'd want to use Access when LibreOffice is available to work with a much better back end.
OH no, not Access AND Excel!
lol, yep, I've been there, done that. Didn't get the t-shirt because it sucked.
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
I had a customer tell me that they use email as a CYA - so therefore they never delete anything. /sigh...sadly, nothing really works the same to provide this - at least not that I know of.
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@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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CYA
CYA?
Cover Your Ass
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.
And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders
Is that the thing we used to call Great Pains?
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@dafyre Yup
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@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.
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Researchers Easily Trick Cylance's AI-Based Antivirus Into Thinking Malware Is 'Goodware'
By taking strings from an online gaming program and appending them to malicious files, researchers were able to trick Cylance’s AI-based antivirus engine into thinking programs like WannaCry and other malware are benign.
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@Danp said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Researchers Easily Trick Cylance's AI-Based Antivirus Into Thinking Malware Is 'Goodware'
By taking strings from an online gaming program and appending them to malicious files, researchers were able to trick Cylance’s AI-based antivirus engine into thinking programs like WannaCry and other malware are benign.
Oh no.
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@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.
That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.
That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.
Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.
That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.
Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.
It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.
In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push
Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.
Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.
It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.
You are.
If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.
I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.
True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.
That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.
Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.
It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.
In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.
Yeah. So, that is why I don't want to use it. People want to use it for instant messaging when they have a question about some random shit like, my screen sometimes turns off and I have to press the power button to turn it on again.
