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    Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors. You pay for black box with support and are 100% dependent on the company being around, viable and there to help you. You have to trust the company's as a vendor and you have to trust them financially. You gamble on closed solutions like these that the vendor will still be around to support you for the duration of your support contract. If the companies have bad financial pictures, especially these that run at a loss hoping to be acquired or gambling on big growth that has almost no possibility of happening, the end users are the ones at risk. Of course you gamble like this with EMC or Microsoft - but those are companies with billions in profits and long histories of stability. That's a safe bet. A very safe bet. But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment, little hope of acquisition and every day is just another day for the existing shareholders to lose value. Whether you like the vendor or their products or not, these kinds of companies are really scary to use in a position where you need to depend on the vendor to be around for any length of time.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors...But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment...

        Where'd you hear that from??

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors...But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment...

          Where'd you hear that from??

          Nutanix? It's everywhere. Have you not looked at their financials? They lose money on every sale, they are too big for a funding round. Nutanix being non-viable has been standard industry assessment for some time.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
            last edited by FATeknollogee

            Hopefully, before they shut the doors maybe they'll "open source" their KVM + HTML5 GUI !

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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              @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              Hopefully, before they shut the doors maybe they'll "open source" their KVM + GUI !

              Seems unlikely. Their culture is not at all like that. I suspect they'd rather see their code burn and be lost rather than letting anyone get access to it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by FATeknollogee

                  @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                  Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                  They were able to create a HTML5 GUI for KVM.
                  Not sure why no one else has one!
                  You'd think RedHat would have a similar GUI for KVM.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                    Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                    They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                    Not sure why no one else has one!
                    You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                    KVM GUI managers
                    Open Source: Virt-Manager
                    Closed Source: @scale

                    Just real quick off the top of my head.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                      Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                      They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                      Not sure why no one else has one!
                      You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                      Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                        They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                        Not sure why no one else has one!
                        You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                        KVM GUI managers
                        Open Source: Virt-Manager
                        Closed Source: @scale

                        Just real quick off the top of my head.

                        edited my posts to say "HTML5 GUI"
                        @scale doesn't count since it's closed source.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                          Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                          They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                          Not sure why no one else has one!
                          You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                          Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                          We need an "XO" for KVM

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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                            @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                            @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                            Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                            They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                            Not sure why no one else has one!
                            You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                            Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                            We need an "XO" for KVM

                            I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

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                            • QuixoticJeremyQ
                              QuixoticJeremy @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                              @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                              @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                              Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                              They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                              Not sure why no one else has one!
                              You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                              Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                              We need an "XO" for KVM

                              I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

                              lol sorry guys! Afraid super busy is the understatement of the century for me at the time being haha.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                                They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                                Not sure why no one else has one!
                                You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                                Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                                We need an "XO" for KVM

                                I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

                                I think it might be on a list somewhere 😉

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                  @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                  Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                                  They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                                  Not sure why no one else has one!
                                  You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                                  Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                                  We need an "XO" for KVM

                                  Starwind is doing so. Or were they doing Hyper-V I lost track.

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                                  • QuixoticJeremyQ
                                    QuixoticJeremy @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                    Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                                    They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                                    Not sure why no one else has one!
                                    You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                                    Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                                    We need an "XO" for KVM

                                    I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

                                    I think it might be on a list somewhere 😉

                                    lol that is very possible 🙂

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                      Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                                      They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                                      Not sure why no one else has one!
                                      You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                                      Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                                      We need an "XO" for KVM

                                      Starwind is doing so. Or were they doing Hyper-V I lost track.

                                      Hyper-V

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee
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                                        According to @KOOLER this will support KVM
                                        https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager

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                                          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                          This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors...But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment...

                                          Where'd you hear that from??

                                          They've lost over 500 million dollars, and are not public so they can't raise VC cash.
                                          well over 100 million lost on last quarter.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                            @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                            According to @KOOLER this will support KVM
                                            https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager

                                            In time. Not yet. Hyper-V first.

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