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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Kelly
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      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

      Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
      

      What firewall?

      Juniper SRX.

      I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

      About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

      What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

      I'm not sure what you're getting at.

      A general consensus around ML is that UTMs are unnecessary, i.e. a waste of money. Additionally, Scott is pretty adamant that there is only one primary vendor (drawing a blank right now) that is good for UTMs.

      So what I'm getting at is, what was the decision tree that lead to purchasing two $2000+ UTM firewalls? Why were they felt to be worth the value versus say a pair of Edge Routers? etc

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      • KellyK
        Kelly @Dashrender
        last edited by Kelly

        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

        Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
        

        What firewall?

        Juniper SRX.

        I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

        About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

        What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

        I'm not sure what you're getting at.

        A general consensus around ML is that UTMs are unnecessary, i.e. a waste of money. Additionally, Scott is pretty adamant that there is only one primary vendor (drawing a blank right now) that is good for UTMs.

        So what I'm getting at is, what was the decision tree that lead to purchasing two $2000+ UTM firewalls? Why were they felt to be worth the value versus say a pair of Edge Routers? etc

        I didn't purchase them for the UTM, but the FIPS validation. Actually saved the company quite a bit of money overall since they were going to buy Cisco ASAs.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
          

          What firewall?

          Juniper SRX.

          I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

          About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

          What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

          I'm not sure what you're getting at.

          A general consensus around ML is that UTMs are unnecessary, i.e. a waste of money. Additionally, Scott is pretty adamant that there is only one primary vendor (drawing a blank right now) that is good for UTMs.

          So what I'm getting at is, what was the decision tree that lead to purchasing two $2000+ UTM firewalls? Why were they felt to be worth the value versus say a pair of Edge Routers? etc

          You are conflating shit and coming up with something none of us have said.

          I have repeatedly said that the typical SMB has no need for a UTM. I have never said that a UTM is unnecessary.

          But once you need a UTM, then you need a real UTM and not some $300 piece of crap.

          Palo Alto is the gold standard in the space IMO. It does not mean that other units are shit. Just not as good, IMO.

          You also assumed that he bought these units for UTM. Which as you can see by the follow up response, he did not.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
            

            What firewall?

            Juniper SRX.

            I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

            About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

            What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

            I'm not sure what you're getting at.

            A general consensus around ML is that UTMs are unnecessary, i.e. a waste of money. Additionally, Scott is pretty adamant that there is only one primary vendor (drawing a blank right now) that is good for UTMs.

            So what I'm getting at is, what was the decision tree that lead to purchasing two $2000+ UTM firewalls? Why were they felt to be worth the value versus say a pair of Edge Routers? etc

            You are conflating shit and coming up with something none of us have said.

            I have repeatedly said that the typical SMB has no need for a UTM. I have never said that a UTM is unnecessary.

            But once you need a UTM, then you need a real UTM and not some $300 piece of crap.

            Palo Alto is the gold standard in the space IMO. It does not mean that other units are shit. Just not as good, IMO.

            You also assumed that he bought these units for UTM. Which as you can see by the follow up response, he did not.

            I made no assumption - I asked a question. Period. Then he was confused by the question, so I explained my reason for asking.

            So the answer to my question was - because FIPS. Period, end of line. FFS

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