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    Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?

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    • creaytC
      creayt @Obsolesce
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      @tim_g It'll be using the standard MySQL replication so I believe asychronously but I'm not positive.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        You and remove the problem of a non vendor drives by using a generic RAID controller instead of a branded one from Dell.

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        • creaytC
          creayt @Dashrender
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          @dashrender Does that work??! If so any recommendations? These are 8 drive and 10 drive boxes so if there's a semi-affordable one that's compatible and can use the full horsepower of the drives I'd be more than down to do that.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @creayt
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            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

            @dashrender Does that work??! If so any recommendations? These are 8 drive and 10 drive boxes so if there's a semi-affordable one that's compatible and can use the full horsepower of the drives I'd be more than down to do that.

            Supermicro my man. . . Scott could probably rattle off the best raid controllers for the use case as well..

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @creayt
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              @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

              a: 2x octacore xeon, b: 2x decacore xeon

              Full serverware stack on each ( IIS, app server, MySQL )

              Because you have Windows (you said IIS) involved, be aware that you will need extra licensing for the instances on the decacore system.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @creayt
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                @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                @dashrender Does that work??! If so any recommendations? These are 8 drive and 10 drive boxes so if there's a semi-affordable one that's compatible and can use the full horsepower of the drives I'd be more than down to do that.

                This is what SuperMicro used to do... not sure if they are deving their own firmware these days or not.

                Specific recommendation - nope. Ask Scott.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @creayt
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                  @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                  @dashrender Does that work??! If so any recommendations? These are 8 drive and 10 drive boxes so if there's a semi-affordable one that's compatible and can use the full horsepower of the drives I'd be more than down to do that.

                  I like disctech.com but them being local to me may make me a little biased.

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                  • creaytC
                    creayt @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @creayt
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                      @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                      @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

                      Correct. What hypervisor you using?

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @creayt
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                          @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                          @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                          Prepare for the wrath of the Mango!

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @creayt
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                            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                            @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                            Um No.

                            Stop now.

                            Re-evaluate your needs.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @creayt
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                              @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                              @creayt Also forgot to bring up that Raid 0 also gives me way more capacity right so it'd give me terabyte(s) more before I had to scale to extra hardware? Can't remember how much Raid 5 subtracts.

                              RAID 5 removed one drive. So you'd buy one extra drive for each node. This would, in theory, give you a read performance boost, and a write deficit.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @creayt
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                                @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                                Yep. This is a bad idea.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @creayt
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                                  @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                  @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

                                  THat's correct.

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt
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                                    About to benchmark a 5-drive Raid 5 to compare it to the Raid 0 results I've benchmarked so far. Does anyone remember if you're supposed to create the VD w/ a size that's smaller than the full capacity to redeem the benefits of over provisioning or not?

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt @DustinB3403
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                                      @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @creayt
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                                        @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                        @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

                                        You ALWAYS virtualize, unless you have a specific reason to not. i.e. can't think of anything.

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                                        • creaytC
                                          creayt @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @creayt
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                                            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                            @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                                            The overhead of a hypervisor shouldn't even be a consideration. There is literally 0 benefit to doing this. You could use a hypervisor and have a true HA setup so if a node takes a nose dive, everything is instantly (I mean instantly) up on another node.

                                            You wouldn't even have time to blink.

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