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    Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?

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      StorageNinja Vendor
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      Another trend in benchmarking is using stuff like HCI bench or VM Fleet to test LOTS of workloads. A single worker in a single VM doesn't' show what contention looks like at scale. 0_1502724978346_SANPeople.jpg

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        scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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        @storageninja best meme I've seen in a long time.

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        • matteo nunziatiM
          matteo nunziati @StorageNinja
          last edited by matteo nunziati

          @StorageNinja

          enterprise drives that have capacitors

          This. I asked the reseller about this feature. They anwer: disable ssd cache anyway and use controller cache.
          The latter former is a safer choice while the latter is too new/untested feature...

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            matteo nunziati @StorageNinja
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            @storageninja

            Your better off in this case if you want to stress the drives do two tests.

            I did a test w/ random read and write simulating a thread per expected user.

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              StorageNinja Vendor @matteo nunziati
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              @matteo-nunziati said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

              This. I asked the reseller about this feature. They anwer: disable ssd cache anyway and use controller cache.
              The latter former is a safer choice while the latter is too new/untested feature...

              To be blunt, the reseller doesn't know what they are talking about. Every enterprise SSD in the modern era (using some sort of FTL) uses this design and has for years. They are configured this way even in big enterprise storage arrays with the unique exception of Pure Storage who re-writes their firmware to basically use drives as dumb NAND devices (and then has MASSIVE NVRAM buffers fronting the drives that do the same damn thing at a global level).

              Some SDS systems want you to explicitly disable the front cache as it will coalesce data and prevent data proximity optimizations in the actual raw data placement. It also exists as yet another place that data can be lost or corrupted and for systems that want to "own" IO integrity end to end they want to know where stuff is.

              Then again, what do I know...

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                travisdh1 @StorageNinja
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                @storageninja said in [Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?]

                Then again, what do I know...

                According to a vendor, or anyone that's got a clue?

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                  StorageNinja Vendor @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 My job is to fly drink and talk primarily 🙂

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                    scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                    @storageninja said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                    @travisdh1 My job is to fly drink and talk primarily 🙂

                    I don't know how to "fly drink" or to "talk primarily"!

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                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                      @storageninja said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                      @travisdh1 My job is to fly drink and talk primarily 🙂

                      I don't know how to "fly drink" or to "talk primarily"!

                      You're job description includes talking to people on web forums now doesn't it? Also, when do you stop drinking?

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                        StorageNinja Vendor @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                        You're job description includes talking to people on web forums now doesn't it? Also, when do you stop drinking?

                        Fly, Drink, Talk. There you go.

                        No, hanging out on web forums is not my job.
                        I actually didn't drink that much this weekend (was too hot, working on the beach house).

                        My day job involves...

                        1. Flying to conferences and speaking. I have 11 conference presentations in the next 4 weeks. Crowd size is 200-800.

                        2. Flying to fun places and meeting with people. I'll be in India soon meeting with Customers, Partners, and SE's training them and taking questions, and collecting feedback for engineering.

                        3. Breaking things. I technically am classified as a R&D employee and have full access to our nightly builds, our BAT private cloud, and a dozen "Fully loaded" servers for a lab. I test the new stuff, send feedback through my customer [0] Team, and meet with engineers to capture the subtitles of what's coming out. I don't write the technical publications (core documentation), but I do draft thousands upon thousands of words for design and sizing and usage guides, blogs.

                        4. I host a podcast for the lols.

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                        • creaytC
                          creayt
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                          That RAID tho. 5 drives in a 0 seems to be the magic number for this controller.

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                            coliver @creayt
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                            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                            That RAID tho. 5 drives in a 0 seems to be the magic number for this controller.

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                            In RAID 0? That makes sense there are no penalties (aside from reliability) and all the performance of all the drives.

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                              creayt @coliver
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                              @coliver Indeed, but what's interesting is how 5 drives specifically beat other quantities of the same drive in Raid 0 on the same hardware from my earlier posts ( can't link to them because Mango Lassi has been freaking out on me and doing weird stuff including not rendering the images as I scroll ).

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