Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi
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@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.
Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.
Do you have more info on this?
@KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34
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@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.
Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.
Do you have more info on this?
@KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34
I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.
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@magicmarker said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g I was looking for a decent GUI interface to build a KVM Hypervisor for a SAM-SD. See my post here. Thanks for posting this.
Ah, I completely missed that topic or I would have referenced this one in there for you.
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@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.
Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.
Do you have more info on this?
@KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34
I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.
Lol, me too!
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@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.
Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.
I hope it's nice and featureful.
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I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
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@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
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@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
SPICE sets up a channel for each item. If you set up key based access it won't do that any more. Adding your user to the libvirt group helps management a lot also.
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@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
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@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
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@Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?
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@fateknollogee said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try.
My step-by-step guide is for each host you want to set up.
Then on your Fedora-based workstation/laptop, you can use VMM to view and manage all of your hosts and VMs. This will rely on you being on the local network physically, or via VPN.
Via the web (the Kimchi host/VM manager), that's per host. You need to go to the https://ip:8001 for each host you want to manage. This could potentially be done simply via any web browser anywhere in the world you have an internet connection, without the need to VPN.
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@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
Use keys and it won't matter
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@stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
Use keys and it won't matter
That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.
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@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
Use keys and it won't matter
That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.
And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.
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@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
Use keys and it won't matter
That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.
And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.
I'm just using root on this server since it's just a test setup. From what I understand, I don't need to do that with root, so I haven't. Am I wrong?
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@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.
Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.
I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...
Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC
If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.
I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.
Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.
I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.
Use keys and it won't matter
That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.
And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.
I'm just using root on this server since it's just a test setup. From what I understand, I don't need to do that with root, so I haven't. Am I wrong?
Root already is, so not wrong.
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@emad-r said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:
@tim_g
I like , and I do use this but a couple of pointers:
Minimal setup can be:
wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/wok/downloads/latest/wok.el7.centos.noarch.rpm
wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/kimchi/downloads/latest/kimchi.el7.centos.noarch.rpmCause you are downloading this on server, and gingerbase is good and all, but it just provides the monitoring and shutdown of Host, which can be optional.
Secondly Kimchi is very modular, and you can stop it :
systemctl stop wokd
systemctl stop nginxAnd you are back to Vanilla KVM, what I do is I rely on cockpit and have those packages ready if needed. and start them manually / on demand. cause they do consume some RAM. but still very neat ESXi contender.
I initially did without ginger/gingerbase... but I really liked the Host management and monitoring it offers, so I kept it in. Not needed with Cockpit, but it's nice if to not have to switch tabs... and ginger doesn't offer terminal. So I like to have both. Personal preference, really.
Can also do it with only "Fedora Minimal", as installing kimchi and all that also installs virtualization. That's one thing I love about DNF, it's good about installing prereqs, and removing them if not needed.
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https://mangolassi.it/topic/13719/bringing-up-a-win10-vm-on-fedora-25-cinnamon-desktop
Link for my own reference because it's related.
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