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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Agreed, stop logging into a server unless absolutely necessary. Use RSAT from a Windows 8(.1) machine.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
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        Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.

        Either that or IT may not be for you.

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        • Bob BeattyB
          Bob Beatty @IRJ
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          @IRJ said:

          Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.

          Either that or IT may not be for you.

          I might disagree with this. The evolution of Server management has come full circle. I'm from the OS/2 - DOS Lan Manager days - and... I saw Windows go from command line to GUI at the NT stage. Now it's gone to Powershell. Hang on, GUI will make a return in 5-8 years. But for those of us who have had it both ways, I'm more comfortable with GUI for most things - but find PowerShell scripts useful - especially for Exchange. And I do like my start menu and I use Classic Shell on my Windows 8.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
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            @bob-beatty I see what you are saying, but the Metro interface isnt going away. Keyboard Shortcuts are much quicker than using the start menu, anyways.

            I dont think the GUI is coming back. Powershell is just too powerful and has many more options than the GUI will ever have.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I have to agree. The GUI concept only arose in one isolated OS and only because of its desktop roots. No other enterprise OS has ever had a GUI nor has there ever been a move towards one. Windows was a desktop product that has now abandoned the GUI.

              I don't see a cycle but a constant move towards CLI.

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              • ?
                A Former User
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                I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                    @Aaron-Studer said:

                    I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7

                    They'll never do that. Using tools like that is a commitment to keeping up with Microsoft's ecosystem.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

                      Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

                        Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.

                        I'm installing the 8.1 update as we speak on 8 desktops at a client 2 states over. They have been running Windows 8 for a year now.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          We've been on 8.1 for a few months almost across the board. It's better than 8, but nearly the same.

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            We've been on 8.1 for a few months almost across the board. It's better than 8, but nearly the same.

                            Umm....what??

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              8.1? It is definitely slightly better than 8. Have you seen anything that was a step backwards?

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                8.1? It is definitely slightly better than 8. Have you seen anything that was a step backwards?

                                As a literalist, you pretty much said that they are practically identical but not practically identical. Lol

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  From an end user perspective I don't think 8.1 is that different than 8.0. A start button that you see instead of having to know the lower left (by default) will take you to the start screen?

                                  Of course from an admin side the differences are much more noticeable and appreciated.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    The importance of a start button is that it gives a visual clue. Without it the interface is literally a mystery. All navigation is missing. With it you have some guidance. For normal users that is of incredible importance.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      The importance of a start button is that it gives a visual clue. Without it the interface is literally a mystery. All navigation is missing. With it you have some guidance. For normal users that is of incredible importance.

                                      On this we agree.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        The importance of a start button is that it gives a visual clue. Without it the interface is literally a mystery. All navigation is missing. With it you have some guidance. For normal users that is of incredible importance.

                                        I have to give you that one.

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                                          technobabble
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                                          Aside from the "start button" flag that takes you to the Start Screen (or you can right click for options), W8.1 allowed the start screen to have the same background as the desktop, helping some people ease into W8. Also you can setup the system to automatically bypass the Start Screen and go directly to the desktop like W7.

                                          What I like is that the Start Screen allows you to type anywhere (giant search box if you will) and pulls the results on the right without making you choose files, settings etc to find what you are looking for. Oh and on dual monitors, start screen and desktop displays at the same time.

                                          Now if W8.1 and OneDrive would allow me to have my files in both places instead of choosing I would be happy!

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @technobabble
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                                            @technobabble said:

                                            Now if W8.1 and OneDrive would allow me to have my files in both places instead of choosing I would be happy!

                                            what do you mean?

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