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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

      I call up said company

      "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

      "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

      You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

      No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

      The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

      It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

      Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

      I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

      If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

      I'm guessing if we need to come up with alternate ways to say the same thing then my title can be skipped

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Imagine a job where everyone was just titles a colour or a code. Would you put your job as "Turquoise" or "Maroon" or "Senior Seafoam"? I think not. We only put false titles when we intend to use them to further a lie. If they are ridiculous, we know clearly never to use them. When we know our old employer is stuck backing us up in a lie, suddenly people see a grey area where you might consider using a title even when it is known to be repeating someone else's lie.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

          I call up said company

          "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

          "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

          You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

          No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

          The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

          It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

          Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

          I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

          If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

          I'm guessing if we need to come up with alternate ways to say the same thing then my title can be skipped

          Basically you always skip a title, but you always include a job role.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

            I call up said company

            "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

            "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

            You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

            No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

            The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

            It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

            Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

            I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

            If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

            yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

              I call up said company

              "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

              "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

              You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

              No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

              The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

              It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

              Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

              I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

              If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

              yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

              I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @wirestyle22
                last edited by

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                I call up said company

                "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                replace it as Scott said with

                Role: abc

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                  I call up said company

                  "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                  "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                  You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                  No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                  The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                  It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                  Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                  I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                  If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                  yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                  It's specific, but maybe not specific to what he did.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                    I call up said company

                    "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                    "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                    You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                    No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                    The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                    It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                    Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                    I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                    If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                    yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                    I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                    You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                      I call up said company

                      "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                      "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                      You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                      No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                      The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                      It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                      Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                      I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                      If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                      yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                      I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                      replace it as Scott said with

                      Role: abc

                      No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                        I call up said company

                        "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                        "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                        You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                        No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                        The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                        It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                        Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                        I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                        If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                        yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                        I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                        You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                          I call up said company

                          "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                          "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                          You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                          No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                          The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                          It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                          Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                          I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                          If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                          yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                          I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                          replace it as Scott said with

                          Role: abc

                          No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                          What is the role of IT Generalist?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                            I call up said company

                            "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                            "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                            You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                            No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                            The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                            It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                            Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                            I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                            If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                            yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                            I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                            You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

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                            Exactly.. do NOT do that.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                              I call up said company

                              "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                              "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                              You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                              No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                              The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                              It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                              Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                              I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                              If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                              yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                              I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                              replace it as Scott said with

                              Role: abc

                              No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                              What is the role of IT Generalist?

                              I struggle with this question

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                                I call up said company

                                "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                                "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                                You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                                No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                                The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                                It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                                Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                                I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                                If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                                yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                                I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                                replace it as Scott said with

                                Role: abc

                                No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                                What is the role of IT Generalist?

                                What do you mean? It's what you do. It's "all the IT" stuff. It's IT without a specific focus.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller So you leave that blank and EXPLAIN the role, correct? That is what you are saying?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    I call up said company

                                    "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                                    "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                                    You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                                    No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                                    The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                                    It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                                    Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                                    I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                                    If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                                    yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                                    I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                                    replace it as Scott said with

                                    Role: abc

                                    No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                                    What is the role of IT Generalist?

                                    What do you mean? It's what you do. It's "all the IT" stuff. It's IT without a specific focus.

                                    So is the title AND the role IT Generalist?

                                    As previously mentioned IT Generalist is not something almost any SMB will understand. And while qualified hiring manager might understand IT Generalist - how many of those are actually out there?

                                    I know Scott only runs into qualified hiring managers, because if he talked to someone he felt wasn't one, he'd stop the conversation long before it went anywhere, because he'd likely feel the company isn't worth working for if they don't have a qualified hiring manager.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                      I know Scott only runs into qualified hiring managers, because if he talked to someone he felt wasn't one, he'd stop the conversation long before it went anywhere, because he'd likely feel the company isn't worth working for if they don't have a qualified hiring manager.

                                      Scott is also able to make some unique job choices.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @scottalanmiller So you leave that blank and EXPLAIN the role, correct? That is what you are saying?

                                        NO! You never use the word role, you never leave that space blank. That's where you always, no exceptions, but the name of the role. The rest is always a detailed explanation of the role. Reinvent nothing here. Don't start changing things. Resumes have a format, stay with it.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22
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                                          Barnabas Health: Just standard desktop support, no frills. Printers broken, internet explorer won't load this website, imaging, etc.

                                          Garden State Foot & Ankle: I was hired to build a server for them to house X-rays. I was a resource to the owner. He would come up with things he wanted to do and then I was the one to explain how to do them. Desktop support, cabling, purchasing, etc. I honestly was not called very often, the owner was and is a friend of mine who is a podiatrist.

                                          The Arc: I was the director of IT. I was responsible for every appliance, server, workstation, etc. All devices. I handled all of the purchasing in relation to IT. I was the sole IT person covering 33 sites all over ocean county (very large county).

                                          Will continue to update throughout the day. I have some calls coming in

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            The Arc: I was the director of IT. I was responsible for every appliance, server, workstation, etc. All devices. I handled all of the purchasing in relation to IT. I was the sole IT person covering 33 sites all over ocean county (very large county).

                                            Where you really the director? you got to choose the ISPs in use, the phone system in use? etc?

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