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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @bigbear
      last edited by

      @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

      Is TS licensing (or RDS, whatever) now also annual?

      not that I know of. VDA is annual. Software assurance is 2 or 3 years.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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        @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

        Is TS licensing (or RDS, whatever) now also annual?

        No. RDS has really never changed, at all. Yes, they changed the name from TS to RDS long ago. That's it. Literally nothing else has changed about it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @bigbear
          last edited by

          @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

          Is TS licensing (or RDS, whatever) now also annual?

          VDI isn't either.

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @bigbear
              last edited by

              @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

              @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

              No, it's VDA

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

                No, that's VDA, which is an option but basically one that no one would consider. It's an old system that predated the modern, logical VDI licensing options and exists for very special "hardware licensing" situations. It would be very surprising if it was applicable to you.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                  @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                  @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

                  No, it's VDA

                  and more specifically, as Scott said, it's not computer dependent, it's user dependent. So if you only have 5 users, you only need 5 VDA. if you have 20 users, and only 10 computers used, you still need 20 VDA licenses.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Microsoft's "spin" or "take" on their VDI licensing is that they've always encourage everyone to license Windows 10 Enterprise and get Software Assurance on it so that you are always getting updates and all of the available features. When you do this, VDI is a free add on that they just include for you.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      @scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                      @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                      @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

                      No, that's VDA, which is an option but basically one that no one would consider. It's an old system that predated the modern, logical VDI licensing options and exists for very special "hardware licensing" situations. It would be very surprising if it was applicable to you.

                      There is a problem with this, you can't license an Ipad with software assurance, so you have to have a VDA license to access a VDI from something other than a WIndows Pro/Enterprise device that has Software Assurance.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                        @bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                        @scottalanmiller what @Dashrender was saying above about $130/desktop/yr is just software assurance then?

                        No, that's VDA, which is an option but basically one that no one would consider. It's an old system that predated the modern, logical VDI licensing options and exists for very special "hardware licensing" situations. It would be very surprising if it was applicable to you.

                        There is a problem with this, you can't license an Ipad with software assurance, so you have to have a VDA license to access a VDI from something other than a WIndows Pro/Enterprise device that has Software Assurance.

                        That's partially correct. You are correct that an iPad cannot be covered by Software Assurance. but it does not have to be. Because the USER is covered by software assurance. So you can use an iPad with VDI for cheap. but with VDA you have to license the equipment, making it very expensive.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato
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                          Take a look at his too:
                          https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/124053-licensing-windows-10-with-virtualization-technologies-how-to

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            huh, learned a few things in this thread. Enterprise SA per USER licenses.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                              huh, learned a few things in this thread. Enterprise SA per USER licenses.

                              It's relatively new in the grand scheme of things.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates
                                last edited by stacksofplates

                                So admittedly I didn't read through the whole thread just the first couple pages. I'm pretty sure we use XenDesktop for this. We have some guys who use a laptop and they get a VDI session with a dedicated graphics card. Then they run SolidEdge,SpaceClaim, or ANSYS Workbench to do their work.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                  So admittedly I didn't read through the whole thread just the first couple pages. I'm pretty sure we use XenDesktop for this. We have some guys who use a laptop and they get a VDI session with a dedicated graphics card. Then they run SolidEdge,SpaceClaim, or ANSYS Workbench to do their work.

                                  You have a bit more scale. His issue is that he has so few users.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                    So admittedly I didn't read through the whole thread just the first couple pages. I'm pretty sure we use XenDesktop for this. We have some guys who use a laptop and they get a VDI session with a dedicated graphics card. Then they run SolidEdge,SpaceClaim, or ANSYS Workbench to do their work.

                                    You have a bit more scale. His issue is that he has so few users.

                                    I guess you could do the same thing on a smaller scale. Just have dedicated VMs that people RDP into, you might not even need the graphics cards if they are just viewing CAD files.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                      So admittedly I didn't read through the whole thread just the first couple pages. I'm pretty sure we use XenDesktop for this. We have some guys who use a laptop and they get a VDI session with a dedicated graphics card. Then they run SolidEdge,SpaceClaim, or ANSYS Workbench to do their work.

                                      You have a bit more scale. His issue is that he has so few users.

                                      I guess you could do the same thing on a smaller scale. Just have dedicated VMs that people RDP into, you might not even need the graphics cards if they are just viewing CAD files.

                                      Seems like RDS would work fine if you don't need GPU.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates
                                        last edited by stacksofplates

                                        So this might be a fork and I don't know since I don't deal with Windows. If I put a Windows 10 VM on my laptop, am I required to have VDI licensing for that?

                                        Edit: I mean VDA.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                          So this might be a fork and I don't know since I don't deal with Windows. If I put a Windows 10 VM on my laptop, am I required to have VDI licensing for that?

                                          Depends on how it is used. But often, yes. Your laptop is just a server at that point.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:

                                            So this might be a fork and I don't know since I don't deal with Windows. If I put a Windows 10 VM on my laptop, am I required to have VDI licensing for that?

                                            Depends on how it is used. But often, yes. Your laptop is just a server at that point.

                                            Ya that's ridiculous. I found this on SW, so only a type 2?

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