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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        I'm using Korora as the base OS on my Lenovo laptop. It's actually been significantly more stable then Windows 10. Granted I've only been using it for a week.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
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          @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          I'm using Korora as the base OS on my Lenovo laptop. It's actually been significantly more stable then Windows 10.

          Pretty low bar there.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            I rarely see my desktop, so desktop icons are completely useless to me.

            Don't disagree with you there. But clicking Cortana then typing a few characters of what you're looking for, then hit enter seems better than looking for an icon in that mass of icons.

            I go both ways. If it's not pinned on my task bar, I will do it either way depending on what I'm doing:

            If both hands are on keyboard, I'll hit the windows key to bring up start and start typing what I want.
            If I'm using the mouse, I'll hit the windows key to bring up start and click what I want, rather than bringing over my other hand to start typing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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              @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              I go both ways.

              TMI

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @coliver
                last edited by Obsolesce

                @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

                Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

                Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                  @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                  Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

                  Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

                  Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

                  Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @coliver
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                    @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

                    Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

                    Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

                    Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

                    I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

                      Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

                      Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

                      Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

                      I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

                      I don't believe so, but that could be. It doesn't come pre-installed and isn't part of the virtio iso that I'm aware of.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                          I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                          https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                          https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                          At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                          Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Obsolesce
                            last edited by coliver

                            @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                            @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                            @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                            I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                            https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                            https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                            At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                            Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                            Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                            From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @coliver
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                              @coliver awesome. nailed it..
                              Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

                              But I have not even googled that yet.

                              I am supposed to be workign atm...

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                @coliver awesome. nailed it..
                                Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

                                But I have not even googled that yet.

                                I am supposed to be workign atm...

                                I'm pretty sure this will work but I haven't tested it.

                                https://www.spice-space.org/page/MultiHeadVirtManagerWindowsGuests

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                                  I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                                  https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                                  https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                                  At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                                  Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                                  Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                  From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                                  Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                                  I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                                  I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Obsolesce
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                                    @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                    @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                    @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                    @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                                    I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                                    https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                                    https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                                    At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                                    Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                                    Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                    From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                                    Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                                    I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                                    I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                                    Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                                      I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                                      https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                                      https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                                      At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                                      Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                                      Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                      From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                                      Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                                      I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                                      I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                                      Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

                                      Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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                                        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                                        I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                                        https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                                        https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                                        At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                                        Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                                        Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                        From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                                        Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                                        I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                                        I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                                        Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

                                        Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

                                        Done. What an improvement! Especially when windowed.

                                        Adding this bit into my OP.

                                        Thanks!

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite
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                                          I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                                          Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
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                                            @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                                            I only install this ^^
                                            IIRC, both do the same thing.

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