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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
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      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      A little potential good news.

      Interesting - kinda like european prices - what you see is what you really pay, all taxes are already included in listed price. I do and don't like that.

      All taxes and fees being included in the list price is amazing. It should be that way for literally everything I have no idea why it isn't.

      Well - for me personally - I like the like item break out - it "helps ensure the public is aware of what they are being taxed" But in reality - the public doesn't care. They'll bitch and moan about it, but very few if any will actually do anything about it.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        As many as 9.5 Million fake post for the repeal of NN are suspected of being supplied by lobbying firms; NY AG has subpeoned multiple companies to get the truth.

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews
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          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/ajit-pai-killed-rules-that-could-have-helped-florida-recover-from-hurricane/

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          • mlnewsM
            mlnews
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            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/ajit-pais-5g-plans-make-it-harder-for-small-isps-to-deploy-broadband/

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by DustinB3403

              The entire broadband industry suing Vermont to stop NN vote.

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/entire-broadband-industry-sues-vermont-to-stop-state-net-neutrality-law/

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                3 states AGs are actively supporting the FCC in their repeal of NN.

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-quest-to-kill-net-neutrality-supported-by-texas-arkansas-and-nebraska/

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                  bnrstnr @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  3 states AGs are actively supporting the FCC in their repeal of NN.

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-quest-to-kill-net-neutrality-supported-by-texas-arkansas-and-nebraska/

                  This doesn't surprise me at all. What I'm surprised about is that the entire bible belt isn't openly supporting it...

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-republican-claims-municipal-broadband-is-threat-to-first-amendment/#p3

                    In only that private organisations can't really infringe on first amendment rights... Not that they won't infringe on free speech and freedom of the press.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-republican-claims-municipal-broadband-is-threat-to-first-amendment/#p3

                      In only that private organisations can't really infringe on first amendment rights... Not that they won't infringe on free speech and freedom of the press.

                      Does this mean that the military and police forces need to be privatized so they don't infringe on our rights either?
                      /sigh

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Verizon won’t speed up 5G buildout despite FCC preempting local fees

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          Supreme Court rejects industry challenge of 2015 net neutrality rules
                          But lawsuits over Pai's net neutrality repeal and California law will continue.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver
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                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                            "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
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                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                              "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                              That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

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                                bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                                I do love my TSA Precheck, but totally agree that it is bullshit. If my company didn't pay for it, I would have never gotten it.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                                  "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                                  That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                                  I don't consider this the same at all.

                                  With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                                    "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                                    That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                                    I don't consider this the same at all.

                                    With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                                    Adam Ruins Everything.

                                    Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                                      "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                                      That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                                      I don't consider this the same at all.

                                      With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                                      Adam Ruins Everything.

                                      Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

                                      Considering the other current options - I'm OK with that.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                                        "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                                        That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                                        I don't consider this the same at all.

                                        With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                                        Adam Ruins Everything.

                                        Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

                                        Considering the other current options - I'm OK with that.

                                        You are okay with paid prioritization in the public space?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          I think nothing from the government should involve bribes, official or unofficial, to prioritize over other people. Private space, that's different, but nothing public. Would you be okay if you could pay for easier voting, for example?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            I think nothing from the government should involve bribes, official or unofficial, to prioritize over other people. Private space, that's different, but nothing public. Would you be okay if you could pay for easier voting, for example?

                                            Frankly - yes. But a mail in ballot is pretty damned easy - and well i do have to pay for the stamp from me to the voting office.

                                            I know it's altruistic to want everyone to be equal from a public POV, but the reality is we are not. And flying isn't public either, these are private businesses (and I'm pretty sure the airports are too - though I leave TONS of room to be wrong) that operate with government oversite. I.E. the TSA is government run, not airport run.

                                            I suppose you're going to say that Pre-Check should be free for everyone - so everyone can be wisked through more quickly... I'm not sure if that plays into the theater affect or not? I'd be OK if it was free for everyone, and those who don't want background checks then you get the slow, take your shoes/belt, etc off line.

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