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    • coliverC
      coliver @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

      Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

      I'm not so sure about this. It's considered a human right by the UN, and a vast majority of sales and communication is now done over the internet. You'd have a serious economic collapse if we went back to pre-internet life, it would make the 2008 recession look like a good day for the market. Could we do it? Sure, we could also get rid of modern medicine and go back to blood letting and trepanning.

      You're damned right we could - let's start a new campaign for that. LOL

      Anti-vaxers and the natural medicine extremists already exist.

      I was going to post the same thing. We also have a tendency to overuse antibiotics but that's not really a cult thing.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @coliver
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        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        And now the FCC is suggesting that Mobile broadband of 10/1 might be all a house actually needs. Which would make it easier for Chairman Idiot's job easier to roll back Net Neutrality. . .

        Needs? WTF does that mean? for that matter, we don't NEED internet - if we want to go back to early 1990's life.

        I'm not so sure about this. It's considered a human right by the UN, and a vast majority of sales and communication is now done over the internet. You'd have a serious economic collapse if we went back to pre-internet life, it would make the 2008 recession look like a good day for the market. Could we do it? Sure, we could also get rid of modern medicine and go back to blood letting and trepanning.

        You're damned right we could - let's start a new campaign for that. LOL

        Anti-vaxers and the natural medicine extremists already exist.

        I was going to post the same thing. We also have a tendency to overuse antibiotics but that's not really a cult thing.

        Sure it is.. the cult of the doctor pandering to the patient. (said tongue in cheek mostly)

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          Pai conveniently forgets about Version having the only formal net neutrality complaint filed against them.

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          • mlnewsM
            mlnews
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            https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/08/mobile-broadband-cant-replace-fast-home-internet-americans-tell-fcc/

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
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              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/pro-net-neutrality-billboards-shame-lawmakers-who-want-to-repeal-rules/

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                This is the kind of corruption that people in the third world don't understand. They think that corruption stops with cops shaking you down on the side of the road for $20. The scale and ubiquity of American style corruption is so large and so complete that you can't even imagine it elsewhere in the world.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  This is the kind of corruption that people in the third world don't understand. They think that corruption stops with cops shaking you down on the side of the road for $20. The scale and ubiquity of American style corruption is so large and so complete that you can't even imagine it elsewhere in the world.

                  really? Sure the locals might not think there is corruption further up the chain because they have it so in their face locally, but does that mean that it doesn't exist? And if that's not what you're trying to day, I guess I need further explanation.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    This is the kind of corruption that people in the third world don't understand. They think that corruption stops with cops shaking you down on the side of the road for $20. The scale and ubiquity of American style corruption is so large and so complete that you can't even imagine it elsewhere in the world.

                    really? Sure the locals might not think there is corruption further up the chain because they have it so in their face locally, but does that mean that it doesn't exist? And if that's not what you're trying to day, I guess I need further explanation.

                    They don't understand that we have this in America. They are used to "in your face" corruption, not corporate / political corruption like this. So it gives the impression that the US is less corrupt than their countries are even while the corruption is often far bigger and more intense.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      This is the kind of corruption that people in the third world don't understand. They think that corruption stops with cops shaking you down on the side of the road for $20. The scale and ubiquity of American style corruption is so large and so complete that you can't even imagine it elsewhere in the world.

                      really? Sure the locals might not think there is corruption further up the chain because they have it so in their face locally, but does that mean that it doesn't exist? And if that's not what you're trying to day, I guess I need further explanation.

                      They don't understand that we have this in America. They are used to "in your face" corruption, not corporate / political corruption like this. So it gives the impression that the US is less corrupt than their countries are even while the corruption is often far bigger and more intense.

                      Interesting way to put it. Not words I would use, but then again, I don't have ones I would use at the moment. I'll agree that our bigger government/bigger companies have bigger corruption.

                      I'm not sure what's not to understand though... do those people in third world countries think corruption stops that the local cops? and everything above them is kosher?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        I'm not sure what's not to understand though... do those people in third world countries think corruption stops that the local cops? and everything above them is kosher?

                        Pretty much. It is common to see corruption only where you can SEE corruption.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          I'm not sure what's not to understand though... do those people in third world countries think corruption stops that the local cops? and everything above them is kosher?

                          Pretty much. It is common to see corruption only where you can SEE corruption.

                          LOL - so since I don't see corruption in my day to day life is why I think there is corruption all the way to the top? 😛

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            I'm not sure what's not to understand though... do those people in third world countries think corruption stops that the local cops? and everything above them is kosher?

                            Pretty much. It is common to see corruption only where you can SEE corruption.

                            LOL - so since I don't see corruption in my day to day life is why I think there is corruption all the way to the top? 😛

                            Many Americans report that the US is corruption free to the point that they feel that they have no impact from it.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              I'm not sure what's not to understand though... do those people in third world countries think corruption stops that the local cops? and everything above them is kosher?

                              Pretty much. It is common to see corruption only where you can SEE corruption.

                              LOL - so since I don't see corruption in my day to day life is why I think there is corruption all the way to the top? 😛

                              Many Americans report that the US is corruption free to the point that they feel that they have no impact from it.

                              LOL - yeah, sadly I'm sure this is accurate.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                And Verizon will be throttling video's to be lower quality on all plans going forward.

                                And the FCC thought / thinks Net Neutrality rules don't have a place and that suppliers won't abuse their customers.. .

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @DustinB3403
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                                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  And Verizon will be throttling video's to be lower quality on all plans going forward.

                                  And the FCC thought / thinks Net Neutrality rules don't have a place and that suppliers won't abuse their customers.. .

                                  This wouldn't be affected by the Net Neutrality rules. They are universally throttling video content. If they were throttling everyone but their own content then it would be an issue.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by coliver

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    And Verizon will be throttling video's to be lower quality on all plans going forward.

                                    And the FCC thought / thinks Net Neutrality rules don't have a place and that suppliers won't abuse their customers.. .

                                    In reality this just seems like false advertisement. "Unlimited! for certain values of unlimited." Either way it isn't the worst thing in the world. They are trying to prevent network congestion due to introducing a new plan. Could they have invested in their infrastructure to accommodate these new users? Why would they? People are going to buy their services regardless.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      I really wonder about the congestion problem.

                                      I know it happens - DragonCon in downtown Atlanta, you can't make a phone call, let alone get on the internet during Labor Day weekend there.

                                      But in general - is this a real problem?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        I really wonder about the congestion problem.

                                        I know it happens - DragonCon in downtown Atlanta, you can't make a phone call, let alone get on the internet during Labor Day weekend there.

                                        But in general - is this a real problem?

                                        That I'm not sure about.

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                                        • PenguinWranglerP
                                          PenguinWrangler @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender I work next door to Busch Stadium and when there is a Cardinal game going on I can't get reception very well. It is better than what it used to be but it is still spotty.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            And Verizon will be throttling video's to be lower quality on all plans going forward.

                                            And the FCC thought / thinks Net Neutrality rules don't have a place and that suppliers won't abuse their customers.. .

                                            This wouldn't be affected by the Net Neutrality rules. They are universally throttling video content. If they were throttling everyone but their own content then it would be an issue.

                                            It's still an insane stance, and it's funny that the limit is inline with what the FCC thought would be sufficient internet bandwidth for rural areas. . .

                                            10/1 speeds.

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