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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Canonical is only able to turn a profit by providing actual support to people. People who use the software, don't turn into dollars.

      If Canonical went the same route as Red Hat, and limited access or changed development focus to have two different versions, then I could seem them making a better profit.

      But of course, you'd have a fork in the project, one community support (ie CentOS) and the other business supported.

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      • Reid CooperR
        Reid Cooper @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

        Canonical is only able to turn a profit by providing actual support to people. People who use the software, don't turn into dollars.

        Can't sell support if you don't have customers.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Reid Cooper
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          @Reid-Cooper said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

          @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

          Canonical is only able to turn a profit by providing actual support to people. People who use the software, don't turn into dollars.

          Can't sell support if you don't have customers.

          Can't have customers if your product doesn't need support.

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          • Reid CooperR
            Reid Cooper @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

            If Canonical went the same route as Red Hat, and limited access or changed development focus to have two different versions, then I could seem them making a better profit.

            How would having two names for the same product change their profitability?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Reid Cooper
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              @Reid-Cooper said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

              @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

              If Canonical went the same route as Red Hat, and limited access or changed development focus to have two different versions, then I could seem them making a better profit.

              How would having two names for the same product change their profitability?

              The same way that RedHat and CentOS exist.

              Here is the end of Ubuntu Server, and here is Ubuntu Enterprise. The community edition could carry the Ubuntu title. etc.

              Different platforms, and different development teams working to maintain the product.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Obviously Ubuntu Enterprise would have support and licensing much like RedHat does today.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                  @Reid-Cooper said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                  If Canonical went the same route as Red Hat, and limited access or changed development focus to have two different versions, then I could seem them making a better profit.

                  How would having two names for the same product change their profitability?

                  The same way that RedHat and CentOS exist.

                  Here is the end of Ubuntu Server, and here is Ubuntu Enterprise. The community edition could carry the Ubuntu title. etc.

                  Different platforms, and different development teams working to maintain the product.

                  But that's NOT how Red Hat and CentOS work. CentOS only exists for historical reasons, not because it makes financial sense.

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                    Obviously Ubuntu Enterprise would have support and licensing much like RedHat does today.

                    Ubuntu already has a model that is nearly identical to that. Ubuntu (paid) handles the supported version and Ubuntu (free) does not get support. Other than having only one name instead of two names for the same product, it's just like Red Hat's model in that way.

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati
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                      I think it is just shuttleworth-how-you-write-this who does not want to fund the company more. They are searching for fund raising in the private market.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Maybe that is all that it is. He's tired of it.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                          The timing of it all, screams bad business decisions were made, and are trying to be corrected. Just like any other business who is coming across hard times.

                          Let's not forget their mobile OS which was in the works for years and totally flopped.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
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                            The windows phone was a Rockstar in comparison.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ
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                              It was called Ubuntu touch. It was started in 2011.

                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                @IRJ said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                The windows phone was a Rockstar in comparison.

                                Sad but true.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                  @IRJ said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                  The windows phone was a Rockstar in comparison.

                                  Sad but true.

                                  If i remember correctly, Ubuntu touch just got one low end hardware phone to host their OS at launch, and it was only available in Europe.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                    @IRJ said in Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding:

                                    The windows phone was a Rockstar in comparison.

                                    Sad but true.

                                    If i remember correctly, Ubuntu touch just got one low end hardware phone to host their OS at launch, and it was only available in Europe.

                                    Yeah, and they wanted a lot of money for the phone too. (at least I thought it was a lot)

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Yeah, something like the Ubuntu phone needed to be cheap or it just would not make sense, at least on initial release.

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                                      • matteo nunziatiM
                                        matteo nunziati
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                                        anyway I hate to say: I was right

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/12/a-new-vantage-point/

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