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    • coliverC
      coliver @DustinB3403
      last edited by coliver

      @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
      http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

      It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

      You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

      Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem in that that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

      Which is a bit insane.

      Right but this was voted on a partisan divide. These were the people (and the donations they received) that voted in favour. I'm sure Dems also received money from ISPs... but their vote was probably a bit more expensive.

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      • M
        marcinozga @DustinB3403
        last edited by marcinozga

        @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

        @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

        @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

        @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

        'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
        http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

        It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

        You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

        Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

        Which is a bit insane.

        If dems had the majority, this bill would probably have not come up for a vote. This is what you get when you vote republican, bunch of old farts that can hardly turn on the computer making decisions that defy all logic and benefit corporate overlords.
        Btw, the votes were along the party lines on this 50:48.

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        • DanpD
          Danp
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          The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Danp
            last edited by

            @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

            The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

            https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

            It's just getting better and better.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Danp
              last edited by

              @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

              The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

              https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

              They've already pulled the article.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                They've already pulled the article.

                eh, the fact remains that appflash exists even if limited in opt-in testing on a single model phone.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                    They've already pulled the article.

                    eh, the fact remains that appflash exists even if limited in opt-in testing on a single model phone.

                    Agreed. The seeds are sown.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @momurda
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                      @momurda said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                      verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

                      Oh absolutely, clearly the intent is there.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @momurda
                        last edited by

                        @momurda said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                        verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

                        They will either hide it completely or rebrand it to not be AppFlash. The other thing is... how many consumers will actually care or take the time to understand what it is?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          @momurda said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

                          They will either hide it completely or rebrand it to not be AppFlash. The other thing is... how many consumers will actually care or take the time to understand what it is?

                          Well... who cares about the people who don't care about themselves? That's not my concern, that's for sure.

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad
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                            Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @NerdyDad
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                              @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                              ... Is that even legal? Wow.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @travisdh1
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                                  @travisdh1 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                  ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                  It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

                                  What do you mean read the contracts? Does anybody actually read them before signing their soul away for 2 years?

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    @travisdh1 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                    ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                    It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

                                    What do you mean read the contracts? Does anybody actually read them before signing their soul away for 2 years?

                                    I did before signing up with Sprint all those years ago. I proudly sport my tinfoil hat for reasons, ever if you all think I'm nuts 😉

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      @travisdh1 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                      ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                      It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

                                      What do you mean read the contracts? Does anybody actually read them before signing their soul away for 2 years?

                                      We T-Mobile users laugh at your plebeians and your contracts and compromised phones.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by dafyre

                                        @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @travisdh1 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                        ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                        It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

                                        What do you mean read the contracts? Does anybody actually read them before signing their soul away for 2 years?

                                        We T-Mobile users laugh at your plebeians and your contracts and compromised phones.

                                        If Verizon starts installing stuff on my phone I'll root it faster than you can say Supercalifragilisticexpialodocious. (It takes me longer to root my phone right now, cause I just upgraded to a Pixel XL after my Note 4 fell off my holster and became a brick).

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @travisdh1 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @dafyre said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          Sprint already remotely installs apps on their Android phones. Had one install right in front of my eyes. I could uninstall it, but it would be back. Can't disable it either, which sucks.

                                          ... Is that even legal? Wow.

                                          It's not like you own the phone, read those contracts!

                                          What do you mean read the contracts? Does anybody actually read them before signing their soul away for 2 years?

                                          We T-Mobile users laugh at your plebeians and your contracts and compromised phones.

                                          That's why I switched to Ting. T-Mobile makes a lot more sense when you're traipsing around the world.

                                          Also... shameless plug time...
                                          You get $25 credit to service or a new phone (you can bring your own phone) by using someone's referral code https://z6q0sjd201.ting.com/

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                                          • WLS-ITGuyW
                                            WLS-ITGuy
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                                            As long as this thread is here (unless of course I need to create a new thread), we are using ZeroTier for SDN, I'd assume that we would still need a VPN and if so, what would you guys recommend?

                                            We have a few tinfoil hat people here who don't do anything on their computer but teach. Although, I'd imagine searching for things related to teaching happens quite a bit.

                                            TIA ~ Jeff

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