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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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      @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

      One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

      You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

      But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

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        aidan_walsh @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

          @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

          @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

          Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

          One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

          You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

          But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

          You're right there. My original intent was to use it to learn CentOS and other linux server distros. I assumed that, since Qubes was built from Xen, that it should adaquetly support CentOS, but was wrong on that point. However, I have been liking it for a daily Linux driver for its built-in fail safes.

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          • mlnewsM
            mlnews @aidan_walsh
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            @aidan_walsh said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

            @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

            You assume that CF tracks historical DNS. Likely they do not. Would make no sense.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
              http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                Good for Max. Couldn't happen to a nicer set of people.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                  'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                  http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                  I truly hope this happens, and the resulting histories are made public. Then we are one step closer to stringing the offending politricksters up by their short n curlies.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                    http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                    It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                      @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                      'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                      http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                      It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                      You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @coliver
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                        @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                        @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                        'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                        http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                        It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                        You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

                        Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

                        Which is a bit insane.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22
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                          The only true way

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
                            last edited by coliver

                            @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                            http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                            It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                            You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

                            Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem in that that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

                            Which is a bit insane.

                            Right but this was voted on a partisan divide. These were the people (and the donations they received) that voted in favour. I'm sure Dems also received money from ISPs... but their vote was probably a bit more expensive.

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                              marcinozga @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                              http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                              It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                              You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

                              Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

                              Which is a bit insane.

                              If dems had the majority, this bill would probably have not come up for a vote. This is what you get when you vote republican, bunch of old farts that can hardly turn on the computer making decisions that defy all logic and benefit corporate overlords.
                              Btw, the votes were along the party lines on this 50:48.

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                              • DanpD
                                Danp
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                                The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                                https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Danp
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                                  @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                                  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                                  It's just getting better and better.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Danp
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                                    @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                                    They've already pulled the article.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                                      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                                      They've already pulled the article.

                                      eh, the fact remains that appflash exists even if limited in opt-in testing on a single model phone.

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                                      • momurdaM
                                        momurda @JaredBusch
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                                        verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          @Danp said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          The First Horseman of the Privacy Apocalypse Has Already Arrived: Verizon Announces Plans to Install Spyware on All Its Android Phones

                                          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/first-horseman-privacy-apocalypse-has-already-arrived-verizon-announces-plans

                                          They've already pulled the article.

                                          eh, the fact remains that appflash exists even if limited in opt-in testing on a single model phone.

                                          Agreed. The seeds are sown.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @momurda
                                            last edited by

                                            @momurda said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            verizon did this to see what the backlash would be. Expect this to be mandatory on all their phones within a year or two.

                                            Oh absolutely, clearly the intent is there.

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